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Pranic healing?

What on earth is that?

Whatever it is, it is big; there are more than half a million websites on it, and it seems to me that a lot of dosh is being made with pranic healing.

But what is it?

This website might be as good as any to explain:

Pranic Healing is a form of ancient energy medicine, which utilizes the inherent energy Prana (life force or energy) to balance, and promote the body’s energy and its processes. Prana is a Sanskrit word which actually means, the vital force that keeps us alive and healthy. Pranic healing is a holistic approach as it assumes a person in its complexity and does not separate the body and the mind.

It was developed by Grand Master ChoaKok Sui who founded the World Pranic Healing Foundation. He is a Manila-based businessman of Chinese origin – a spiritual teacher, writer and therapist of Pranic healing system.

According to ancient medicine, the body is composed of several physical elements including skin, bones, muscles, organs and so on which function with the help of Prana.The pranais present in the form of +ve and –ve ions. Pranic therapy or treatment involves the act of manipulating the energy (by experts) to restore the energy of the chakras in the body which is believed to treat the condition. Although it’s difficult to detect and measure life energy, its existence is undoubtedly proved…

Following health issues can be successfully treated with Pranic healing: Sleeping illness (lack of sleep) Mental illnesses including depression, anxiety etc. Stress Sprains and strains Body aches like neck pain, muscle pain, back pain etc. A recent trauma and related inflammation Improve psycho-physical aspects in athletes Improve memory Enhance energy level Treat headache Fight ulcers (intestinal) Heal respiratory illnesses, including sinusitis and asthma Skin diseases, including eczema Improves overall immunity Treat the various causes of infertility Aesthetic treatments such as Pranic face lift, bust lift, hip and tummy tuck etc.

Not only is pranic healing a true panacea, it also includes all the buzz-words any self-respecting charlatan wants to employ these days:

  • energy medicine
  • ancient wisdom
  • life force
  • holism
  • complexity
  • mind-body
  • chakras

But the real beauty is, I think, that the existence of the energy – and by implication pranic healing – is undoubtedly proven!

Should we believe this statement?

Not without some evidence, I suggest.

Medline lists all of 4 articles on the subject of pranic healing – not too difficult a task to summarise them quickly here:

The first paper is entirely evidence-free, but we learn the following interesting thing: “When Pranic healing is applied the molecular structure of liquid and dense states of matter can be altered significantly to create positive outcomes, as revealed through research.”

The second article is not actually on pranic healing and contains no relevant information on it.

The third article is merely a promotional essay for nurses that fails to include anything resembling evidence.

The fourth paper finally is much of the same again.

So where is all this science supporting pranic healing? After all any treatment that can alter the molecular structure of matter must amount to a bit of a scientific sensation! Has the evidence perhaps been published in journals that are not Medline-listed? That I find difficult to imagine after realising that even the AUSTRALIAN JOURNAL OF HOLISTIC NURSING (one of the above 4 publications) is included in this database. And, in any case, such a scientific sensation deserves to be published in one of the leading science-journals!

Could it be that there is not science to pranic healing at all?

Could the whole thing be a hoax?

I sure hope one of my readers can point me to the science thus proving my suspicion to be unfounded!

127 Responses to Pranic healing: could it be a hoax?

  • It seems that these pranic people are using at least some of the same principles as the homoeoquacks with their claims about the vital force (that is supposed to have “lost its way”).

    I can’t help but think of Falun Gong. They talk about a wheel in your tummy, but their health claims are equally impressive. The Chinese government has outlawed them and that gets a lot of criticism from the Western hemisphere, but the way I see it, is that they are not nearly harsh enough.

    As we now know, this is not harmless. Hansel and Gretel probably are. These people are pushing their victims into potentially life-threatening situations. At the very least, it should be seen as illegal practice of medicine, and quite possibly as premeditated murder. They may not know they are doing harm. That’s no excuse. They are practicing medicine, however revolting. They are supposed to know.

  • Of course it’s a hoax, just as the inventors of Reiki and a plethora of others created deception-based health and religious empires. Here’s a highly curtailed list of prana-based charlatanism…
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bon
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chakra
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dantian
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_medicine
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Etheric_body
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasmuheen
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditation
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mudra
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prana
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pranic_healing
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qi
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qigong
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subtle_body
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalism
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoga

    Most of the alt-med empire would collapse if its prana-based keystone was removed. This is why proponents defend it using any means necessary, including: covert, overt, illegal, and even mind-numbing displays of fuckwittery.

    • Pete 628 – I know you said it was a curtailed list, but since you left out my favorite…I thought I’d add it here:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneuma

      • Thanks for that link, jm, I was unaware of Pneuma. I also learnt some interesting things from the “Pneuma (disambiguation)” page.

        • Pete 628 – You mean something interesting like: prana, qi, pneuma, ki, holy spirit, great spirit, (maybe even the great pumpkin…who knows), etc, etc, etc, are all different ways of saying “the field is the only reality”?

          Careful – you’re a few clicks away from realizing that aether, ling, rei, etc, etc, etc are all taking about the same thing…

          • Yes, I know that they are different ways of saying the same thing. My particular interest is in learning more about which ancient philosopher supported each particular concept and why so many of these prescientific concepts are being increasingly espoused in the 21st Century despite them being known to be abject nonsense i.e. anti-science.

            Careful — you’re a few clicks away from finally realizing that you keep committing a divide by zero error in your reasoning 🙂

          • Pete 628 – I never questioned that you knew they were saying the same thing. I was hoping you finally found out what the thing was they were saying (the whole field/reality thing).

          • Oh FFS, jm! I long ago found out that the whole field/reality thing doesn’t exist, which is why all alt-med [and everything else] based on it doesn’t work.

            Pre-scientific abject nonsense exist only in the minds of those who are true believers — those who now have their head stuck so far up their ass that their main/only enjoyment is spitting venom at science- and evidence-based medicine.

          • Good luck with your research, Pete 628.

  • The fourth paper finally is much of the same again.

    Interesting use of what look like ‘scare quotes’ in the abstract though.

  • Hi please check the following link.

    And a suggestion to all the scientific people being soooooo sure about pranic healing being not scientific or effective. Did YOU ever even care to try it properly with a competent healer.

    Because it would be as ” unscientific ” to form such a strong, judgemental and and biased opinion as it would be to accept it blindly.

    According to my understanding science means an open minded study of any phenominun rather than opinion based raving.

    I request you to observe the language. It is not that anyone can site any research dis proving pranic healing.

    The reason there is this lack of data proving it because there are so many people who have experienced it and they may not be people with scientific background that is why it seems that it is “unconditionally proven”.

    The people here argue as if it is “unconditionally disproven”.

    Try it and see.
    Check this link which at least gives some facutul information about a scintific experiment.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YYWJuDnfPvQ

    • I have seen it tried it, researched it, tested it in clinical trials, published about it – WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT ME TO DO?

    • @J R S

      A youtube video? Seriously?

      • ” A youtube video? Seriously?”

        Oh but Wiki is SO much more credible to recite from! Really? Um ok.

          • Its just a Multi Level Marketing Business! One should look at the luxurious properties they own form the monies they earn!

            “There is no better way to take money from people than to make them willingly give it away !”

            They target are the people who are weak form their mind, who need a belief to cling on to. They major focus is moulding the minds and perspectives of the very young crowd. And they in become the army to pass it on to the next level.

            Worst thing is, people who are into it will never admit it, because the science of self reasoning doesn’t exist in them else they wouldn’t be a part of it in the first place!

            Anyways, its not right or wrong! At the end of the day, people have the right to believe whatever they want in order to live on this planet so far as it doesn’t cause in any harm or destruction to others.

            But yes, a business it is! and a lot can be learnt from its Business Model.

  • one of my close known lady have learnt this Technic and she is practicing in my house as she is visiting me for couple of weeks and staying with me
    I did not know it earlier that she is practicing prani healing at my house too. but after her stay of one weak i start feeling very uncomfortable.i asked her i am feeling very uncomfortable an bad vibration as I never felt it before.are you doing any kind of prayer or anything. she said yes pranic healing, so I asked please stope it, and she did stop for few days and i felt better and again I saw her doing in front of my son room and later ine day my son got mad at me with no reason it happened couple of times.
    so i believe its harmful to another person.

  • waitning for the reply

    • If your son doesn’t like what she is doing to him then YOU must stop it from happening to him. Don’t ask us to explain what is happening and don’t simply ask your “close known lady” to please stop what she is doing. Be a responsible parent by making 100% sure that ‘lady’ stays away from you and your son.

      Your son didn’t get mad at you a couple of times for no reason, he got justifiably mad at you for your failure to look after his best interests in a responsible manner.

  • Yeah pranic healing is such BS. The worst thing about it is there are very few websites out there that actually shed light on this sham of a “practice.” Basically, they prey on weak minded people with personal issues and isolate them from their families like Scientology does.

    From kids who can’t live up to their dad’s expectations to women who are past the age of childbirth, pranic healing societies offer this miraculous hope that it will all go away if you just pay a few hundred bucks for the intro course, then a few hundred more for next, then… Well you get the idea.

    It’s really a refreshing change to see a site that actually analyzes this scam with a critical eye.

    • a.pranic healing school never does promise anything nor say it will go away..its best people don’t comment without understanding the subject..thanks

      • @poornima

        Why do you think the “healing schools” not promise anything?
        We understand perfectly well that there is nothing for them to promise because this particular type of philosophical belief cannot heal anything for real.
        Can you tell us why we should believe otherwise and what it is you think we do not understand?

        • You guys seem to be paid by the pharma biggies!
          Without even knowing what ur talking about u seem to criticize the sole basis of each living particle !
          Before u dumbos were even born the system existed several thousand years ago…acupuncture , tcm, herbology,al are based on ancient secrets ..

          • bravo! two fallacies in one short comment: conspiracy + appeal to tradition

          • If the ancient secrets were so wonderful…
            …how come the ‘ancients’ had an average life span less than 40 years (‘ancients defined as 2000 years ago)?
            …how come the ‘ancients’ often starved to death when their crops failed or during severe droughts?
            …how come the ‘ancients’ didn’t know about electricity, nuclear power, printing or internal combustion engines, all of which we depend on daily for our existence?

            I could go on, but I think I’ll stay a dumbo and vote for 21st-century ‘secrets’: they seem to offer so many more advantages!

          • Wow! A conspiracy theorist. Who’d have thought it?

    • These healers only make big claims, such as treating cancer, diabetes etc …. They are good psychologists though! They know that people with incurable diseases are desperate and would believe them. Have you ever seen they claim treating routine diseases?! NO! Because you can get the antibiotics for a few bucks!

      Another claim they make, is that these stuff are scientifically proven! Whereas, there is NO peer reviewed scientific literature published in recognized medical/scientific journals about PH. I will be happy to see one!

      The dark side of PH is that its very easy way of making big money.
      I feel sorry for desperate cancer patients or individuals with neuropsychological disorders … ;(

  • First time when Steam engine started. People ran away. Cows stopped to Milk. There was a great resistance. Today everyone believe steam engine was just a beginning and there was much more to be added. 100 Years back we new telegraph and and wired phones we never thought technology like Mobile phones will come up.

    Imagine 100 years back we had Mobile phones and Petrol Cars. What would happen. Some people would be amazed and some will call is which craft or may be more.

    Pranic healing is Energy Medicine. Which in another 100-500 Years shall change the treatments and Medicines. It is suggested that unless the science is studied in class room one should not just criticise or declare it bogus. Better take a class it is some 100 – 300 Dollars then react on it.

    • the first time someone formulated a truly stupid idea, people laughed – and today? they are still laughing!

      • Well would you think quantum pyhsics and ideas such as consciousnessis affecting matter and outcomes are truly stupid ideas as well?

        • Ideas are not stupid. Having an idea, then believing in it without properly testing it, is stupid. Anyone who thinks that quantum mechanics lends support to the idea that consciousness is affecting matter, doesn’t understand: quantum mechanics; consciousness; matter; science in general; and statistics.

  • Think research paper downloadable from the link below might be of interest !

    https://www.cihs.edu/whatsnew/Non-Touch%20Energy%20Healing_Koji%20Tsuchiya_ISSSEEM-v20n2.pdf

    • @Martin
       
      “here a link that might help”, It certainly helped get my day off to a good laugh. Martin, this short account contains no experimental detail that would allow anyone else to replicate the experiment, and no indication of the types of blinding that should be applied, even to petri dishes of HeLa cells receiving karmic healing, to provide the extraordinary evidence needed to support such an extraordinary claim. It reads like the pseudo-experiments done by people who claim to possess psychic powers: the powers vanish as soon as decent controls are put in to prevent humbug.
       
      “Our study, the details of which will be published shortly in the scientific literature…”. Please refer us to the published version of this ridiculous, 10-years-old piece of nonsense. It must surely have been peer-reviewed and published in the scientific literature by now.

  • There is no scientific reasoning that hasn’t been refuted that explains exactly the way a bicycle works (check if you don’t believe) does this mean we can’t ride bikes… No. There are things in this world we are as yet to prove scientifically.. Aswell as things that haven’t even been discovered yet, that may help us immeasurably.. The great minds of the world were laughed at for suggesting the world was round yet today it’s popular belief and you’d be crazy to say otherwise.. As someone who has never had evolvement in pranic healing (although it has been suggested I try for a certain ailment) , I have no judgement.. All I can say for certain is, believe in what exists in your own reality. Suggesting someone’s lifes work is ‘BS’ without undergoing extensive therapies and testing based on what it does for you is ludicrous.. Belief and faith subconsciously can have great affects on our lives.. To cast judgement based on how their belief doesn’t support yours, is detrimental to society. This is what has caused this world to endure countless wars and the deaths of millions of our own species.. Remember that every prescription our traditional medicinal doctors give us is detrimental to our liver and with a list of side effects as long as your arm, yet we don’t question it because they have two letters before there name..

  • I’ve read all the comments even the b.s … First I want to question your logical way of proof… Since I’m Greek I have learn from the Greek philosophers to question and to quest in order to find proofs… solid data that will give me the scientific result. I practice Pranic Healing a few months now and the only results I saw was good.

    First of all I would like to tell you that First the Greek philosophers talked about this energy in Greek called Pneuma.
    Then I would like to tell you than we can not practice Pranic Healing without having the permission to do it…. so it is so far from truth that what I read before for someone feeling bad because a guest in his house was practicing Pranic Healing.
    Ultimately I also want to state that this practice is not a religion this is why before every practice we pray to our God, to Saints, to all of the angels and to master Choa Kok Sui for this beautiful gift.

    I you want to see crearly on the issue you have to undestand who is going to loss a big amount of money if everyone in this planet learns to heal the members of his family without paying money to medicine. Nevertheless P.H isn ‘t panakeia to everything and isn’t here to take the place of classic medicine but to complement it.
    There is a video on youtube with a Hospital in California in which over 100 doctors learn how to practice the Pranic Healing in order to reduse the healing time after surgeries… and save money…

    Εdzard… Great for you! Stay on your bike and leave the ferrari for the others.

    P.s. sorry for my bad English….

    • I prefer a bike that works to a Ferrari that has no engine!

    • “prana: (Alternative Belief Systems) (in Oriental medicine, martial arts, etc) cosmic energy believed to come from the sun and connecting the elements of the universe [from Sanskrit, literally: life-force].” — TheFreeDictionary.

      “Pranic healing: The word pranic stems from the Sanskrit word ‘prana’ meaning ‘vital life force’ which is an ancient science and art of healing that utilizes prana or ki energy to heal the whole physical body.” — Collins Free Online Dictionary.

      “Pranic healing is a pseudoscientific alternative medicine that claims to utilise ‘prana,’ or ‘life energy’, to heal the body. ‘Prana’ is the Sanskrit word for qi. It also uses chakras and acupuncture meridians. Deepak Chopra is quite a fan.” — RationalWiki.

      See also:
      http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Pranic

    • Mina said:

      I practice Pranic Healing a few months now and the only results I saw was good.

      Ah. I see your problem.

      Ultimately I also want to state that this practice is not a religion this is why before every practice we pray to our God, to Saints, to all of the angels and to master Choa Kok Sui for this beautiful gift.

      If it’s a ‘gift’ from a god and/or other supernatural entities, why is it not a religion?

      • It’s not a religion because this thing allow you to have your own beleifs….and follow your own religion. In this point I want to say that I have taken the basic course, I’m not advanced in this and I don’t intent to make money of it. I just want a tool for my life…. to help the family members and my pets and plants… and as far it works.

    • Thank you Mina. Yes I am a doctor myself and have just started practicing Pranic Healing …. And it is simply just amazing …….Thanks to Master Chow Kok Sui ……. Thank you for making me a better instrument to help my patients .

  • People tend to be aggresive or afraid of the things that they don’t comprehend… They either laught at them… or condemn them. If we look back at history we’ll see that people with great innovative ideas were considered lunatic at that time…
    Do you want to remind you that Eratosthenes the Greek Astronomer discovered that earth was round more than 2000 years ago (the same Pythagoras and Parmenides) … and this knowledge just rediscovered in medieval times… Not to mention how people reacted in these “crazy” ideas…
    Peoples mind must be like a parachute: OPEN … otherwise we are condemned to fall…

    • I have a better quote for you; it’s from Carl Sagan:
      : “It seems to me what is called for is an exquisite balance between two conflicting needs: the most skeptical scrutiny of all hypotheses that are served up to us and at the same time a great openness to new ideas. Obviously those two modes of thought are in some tension. But if you are able to exercise only one of these modes, whichever one it is, you’re in deep trouble. If you are only skeptical, then no new ideas make it through to you. You never learn anything new. You become a crotchety old person convinced that nonsense is ruling the world. (There is, of course, much data to support you.) But every now and then, maybe once in a hundred cases, a new idea turns out to be on the mark, valid and wonderful. If you are too much in the habit of being skeptical about everything, you are going to miss or resent it, and either way you will be standing in the way of understanding and progress. On the other hand, if you are open to the point of gullibility and have not an ounce of skeptical sense in you, then you cannot distinguish the useful as from the worthless ones.”

      • I tottaly agree! This is why ancient Greeks were saying “Metron Ariston”…
        I at first was also skeptical until I had someone to practice on me…. and it worked! I don’t know how since when you are skeptical placebo effect doesn’t work… but… it worked!
        On the other hand we can see miracles happening around us everyday…. People with cancer getting cured… and no one can explain this… (ok it’s God’s hand but what if God gave us the way for selfcuring?)
        P.H just boosts the bioenergy field so it can help you to cure yourlelf… Once you try it and see that it works, you know that everyone can cure himself on his own . It has’t to do with placebo effect since pets and plants don’t have beliefs!
        And it is amazing what you can do with just the basic on P.H.
        It is fantastic to have such a tool in your hands. Most of the people that I know here in Greece they use it not to make money of it but just to help family and friends… and it helps!

    • Give him his due, Eratosthenes calculated the circumference of the Earth, as well as the angle of tilt, with a fair degree of accuracy. This knowledge wasn’t “rediscovered” but oppressed by the believers in the same deity you cite below.

  • It is said that Science had just scraped the tip of the Truth Iceberg. I have been studying different energy modalities here and visited Choa Kok Sui’s center here in the Philippines. I wanted to test it out for myself. I know my experience would not be acceptable to some of you, still, for the benefit of discussion, allow me to recount my findings so far. I’ve interviewed some of the clients here who go to the center every Thursday, which is a free healing day btw. So at least we know, it’s not all “business”. PH is meant to COMPLIMENT therapies, and not replace it. Also, if you live in the US, please interview Eric B.Robins, M.D., a certified Board Urologist in LA who now practices PH to augment his medication to the patients. He also wrote a foreword in Sui’s first book. Mayhaps an interview with a man of science would help in your search for truth (and not judgement of the whole thing I hope).

    I can also provide you a list of names of the people here who underwent PH and attest to its credibility. I have met a few who were just dragged there by relatives, and not only skeptics, but non-believers. When I talked to the 2 of them (one is hypochondriac amongst other stuff that he had), they just could not believe they made progress. It took long, not at once; one had to do it for almost a year and a half due to deep seated psychological issues.

    So my hypothesis so far, it proves a worthy subject for science to invest their investigation on since there is a great percentile of success rate. I know I’ve seen a link wherein science has a take on this but I also want to look for books so as to have peer related reviews. It’s hard to be reliable solely on the net. So far I have found a medical book that includes PH in it which is why I suggested you look for the doctor mentioned above. I am sure he is not the only doctor who uses this to augment his/her therapies.

    Let us keep an open mind. And instead of being condescending (as showcased by the manner of some comments here), why not open ourselves to the reality that not everything yet is touched or studied extensively by Science. Our reality is much complicated than it seems. It is not made up of collected website links posted as answers, nor quotes made by dead greats. If you really are dogged to prove it as a sham, then I cordially invite you to come to our country and investigate not only PH, but also different unexplained healing modalities here backed up by documentation (both written and videoed). What do you know, our concerted effort to create a study might just be the key to answer this phenomenon. .. we might be featured in Nat Geo or Discovery or somethin LOL

    • @Peach

      Thank you for so beautifully demonstrating what is wrong with well-motivated but unthinking people ‘investigating’ matters ‘scientifically’. Your “hypothesis so far” is “it [PH] proves a worthy subject for science to invest their investigation on since there is a great percentile of success rate.” That’s not a hypothesis.

      Your position seems to be based on “a list of names of the people here who underwent PH and attest to its credibility.” That’s anecdote/testimony. The same applies to astrology, religions, UFOs, psychokinesis, contacts with spirits of dead people and tooth fairies: long lists of names of people who attest to their credibility can be drawn up, but only in the case of tooth fairies is there a base in hard, reproducible evidence for their possible reality. Sadly, even for tooth fairies, their possible existence is subject to other interpretations. Experimenters need in particular to keep adults away from a child’s pillow where a tooth has been placed in order to verify that exchange of tooth for cash cannot be explained by a simpler mechanism than invoking a fairy.

      You are right about one thing. “It’s hard to be reliable solely on the net.” But your devotion to ‘books’ is also misplaced. Books are authored by people with a point of view; they are not by any stretch of the imagination the best repository for scientific evidence. That honour goes to ‘nominally’ peer-reviewed journals. You seem to be unfamiliar with the way science is formally communicated. It is not through interviews and books but via reports describing experiments designed (ideally) to disprove a specific hypothesis. These are published and archived in thousands of more or less subject-specialized periodicals. Nat Geo and Discovery are not publications of this type.

      Please try to come up with a specific hypothesis. Perhaps you think pranic healing works well in a particular condition. If so, pre-define what constitutes ‘working’. Then try to design adequately controlled tests that can disprove your hypothesis. Science really is not the simple matter of “studying different energy modalities here and visited Choa Kok Sui’s center here in the Philippines. I wanted to test it out for myself.”

      • The wall definetely are more openminded than some people in here…
        You spent a lot of money everyday in useless things why all of you don’t spent money to have a pranic healing session so you can have YOUR OWN oppinion instead of scientific crap?
        Maybe you are afraid to prove yourself wrong about this… this is what I think…
        End of story…
        If you lived in medeival you’d probably killing scientists….

      • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-BgQJ-OmBs

        Τhanks God some doctors in this Californian hospital are openminded enough to practise Pranic healing along with the classical medicine!!

        • It’s odd that the urologist mentioned in the (uncritical) news item, Dr Eric Robins, in his listing in HealthyGrades, makes no mention of his pranic powers of healing, doesn’t list it as one of his specialities, doesn’t offer it as a treatment and has no publications to his name, telling the world of his successes…

          • Robins has his own listing as an American Loon:

            http://americanloons.blogspot.ca/2013/05/576-stephen-co-eric-robins.html

            Mr. Henness: I find this disclaimer on Robins’s website revealing:

            DISCLAIMER:
            While Dr. Robins is a licensed physician in the State of California, he only offers his services as a stress management, health and wellness educator through this website. Dr. Robins does not provide any medical diagnosis or treatments and the services he offers on this website are not part of his medical practice.

            In other words, it’s all “nudge nudge wink wink”: we don’t talk about this pranic nonsense inside the office where I practice “real” medicine. I only do this idiotic hand waving behind closed doors.

            The first rule of pranic healing is: we don’t talk about pranic healing.

          • Τhe odd thing would be the opposite…
            With all this medical marketing…. Imagine what would happened to all these companies how many money would loose if the the people could heal themselves without medicine…. and then imagine the pressure on the doctors who would choose to give a chance to P.H…

          • @ Mina on Sunday 25 September 2016 at 18:45

            ‘Imagine what would happened to all these companies how many money would loose if the the people could heal themselves without medicine”

            If/when you get a cancer, please use Pranic Healing and don’t be a burden on the medical/hospital system. If you are so sure, you should bet your life on it.

          • Mine

            LOL! Please come back when you’ve managed to find even a jot of good evidence pranic ‘healing’ has any effect.

            If you want to have a clue about what good evidence actually is, try reading more of the posts on this blog.

    • @ Peach on Thursday 22 September 2016 at 21:20

      “It is said that Science had just scraped the tip of the Truth Iceberg.

      By whom is it said? Science is not a proper noun, it is an activity to find the best answer with the best evidence. What is the, or a, “Truth Iceberg”?

      “I have been studying different energy modalities ”

      What are “energy modalities”?

      “I wanted to test it out for myself.”

      With properly designed studies to exclude all of the human biases which pollute so many studies and make them worthless?

      That is only two lines into your post and there are more questions than answers.

      “I can also provide you a list of names of the people here who underwent PH and attest to its credibility.”

      Please do? Do these people understand placebo effect?

      Why is it you accept the scientific process to fly, communicate, eat, drive, reproduce (or not), use lights and power, but not medicine?

  • (I posted a version of this with a link that went into moderation, so I’m reposting without the link. Dr. Ernst, please delete the original in moderation. Thank you.)

    Television news reports are not science. Especially from credulous, non-science-trained pretty talking heads.

    Clueless reporters have also done stories promoting homeopathy, Gerson “therapy” and Stan Burzynski.

    Also, I wouldn’t trust that urologist in the video to tell me the temperature outside. He’s a total quack who buys into all kinds of nonsense:

    Dr. Eric Robins, MD, is an internationally renowned health expert in Mind-Body Medicine, featured in the NY Times best selling series “The Tapping Solution”, and in “Soul Medicine: Awakening Your Inner Blueprint for Abundant Health and Energy.” He is the author of the foreword to numerous books including “The Tapping Solution for Pain Relief,” “Tap Into Balance”, “The Secret Language of Feelings,” “Life is the Perfect System,” “Superbrain Yoga,” and “Miracles Through Pranic Healing. “He is co-author of the highly acclaimed book “Your Hands Can Heal You,” and a contributing author to both Dr. David Berceli’s book, “Shake It Off Naturally,” and Dr. Dawson Church’s “The Heart of Healing.”

    Dr. Robins is a board-certified urologist and surgeon in private practice and affiliated with a major hospital in Los Angeles. He received his MD degree from Baylor College of Medicine in 1989 and his BA in Biology from the University of Texas in Austin. Dr. Robins completed his training in surgery and urology at LA County-USC Medical Center. He is also certified in a multitude of the most cutting edge healing modalities available today, including as a Level 2 TRE Provider, NLP practitioner, certified clinical hypnotherapist, advanced Pranic Healing practitioner, and in a number of Meridian Tapping modalities such as EFT and others.

  • Ugh. If you need any more evidence that Dr. Robins is not credible, none other than the King of Quackery Dr. Oz has endorsed him:

    “Dr. Robins has helped transform Eastern healing traditions into digestible food for thought for the Western mind. This allows people from all walks of life to reengage in these fascinating techniques.”
    – Dr. Oz, The Dr. Oz Show

    Of course Oz has invited reiki masters in his operating room and is married to a reiki salesperson.

  • Τry to convince his patients who recovered so grate about his “garbage”
    Not me! Thanks God I have a personal opinion because I have tried it!

  • Everything cannot be explained.. Science actually contradicts its own research many times I have seen… Therefore I believe to think science is the only answer is a big mistake…i have been a skeptic of energy healing myself.. But I have seen my mother’s cyst completely cured which actually needed an operation and my granny’s heart blockage cured too through Pranic healing.. Therefore I am slowly moving towards belief in it.. I feel the people here are very judgemental and aggressive in their views.. Why do you care about scientifically proving it so much? I don’t want scientific proofs.. I don’t believe in science with such fanatiscm.. All I want is to get benefitted in my own life.. So try it if you want to benefit from it and stop condemning it if you are happy with your present medical options

    • “… Why do you care about scientifically proving it so much? I don’t want scientific proofs..”
      I real medicine, this is a necessary precondition to protect patients from charlatans.

      • I don’t believe in medicine much.. There are too many side effects.. Also They keep saying one thing in one research and then contradicting it in another future research.. You are trying to question everything.. But You don’t know that we humans are limited in our I understanding of the world.. There are many things which can’t be experienced with our limited senses.. I understand that and I am looking to explore these things further.. I am not calling something false just because I don’t understand it yet.. But you are.. This so called “real medicine” is filled with people trying to just make money.. I don’t have faith in it either.. It’s full of “charlatans” as well.. I would not like to argue with you about anything coz it’s a waste of my valuable energy.. I have totally understood your limited sensibility.. So feel free to not believe in healing and keep wasting your time writing these blogs.. I am not a big fan of blogs bcoz it’s filled with misleading information and biased and judgemental views.. Thank you.. Stay healthy

        • “There are many things which can’t be experienced with our limited senses..”
          that seems particularly true in your case!
          “.. I am not calling something false just because I don’t understand it yet.. ”
          nobody does. but I doubt treatments which show no effects in properly controlled clinical trials – regardless of whether I understand their mode of action.

          • So please continue doubting..
            Only You are missing out on great wisdom and it’s benefits and a lot of other good Stuff coz of lack of faith and too much dependence on science..attend the course if you want to understand Pranic healing and the true purpose of your life.. Don’t judge from outside.. May God bless you!

          • I prefer to miss out on your ‘GREAT WISDOM’ and behave instead responsibly by insisting on reasonable evidence for ALL therapeutic claims for ALL medical interventions.

          • Okay.. Be happy.. You don’t know what I am talking about and I choose not to explain either coz it’s futile.. Stay happy in your “purely scientific world”.. I feel sorry for people like you.. but I guess your time has not come for spiritual growth..you have a super logical brain.. Therefore your brain will never accept anything else.. I am logical too… But after experiencing personal health cure I have become more open to such things.. And I think it works.. Still discovering more of it.. May God bless you!

          • no, you have given us ample reason to assume that you are neither logical, rational or bright!

          • May God bless you!

          • same to you!

          • Neha said:

            You don’t know what I am talking about

            He’s not the only one who doesn’t know what you’re talking about here…

  • Oh and one more thing.. The guy who wrote this article.. Edzar.. His replies clearly show he is not really looking for any evidence.. He has totally formed an opinion against Pranic healing and is just looking for ways to condemn it.. Such strong fanatiscm does not show a receptive mind.. Therefore anything told to him in favor of Pranic healing will only be refuted by him and the other anti people with full vigour.. They are just looking to win the argument and not actual evidence

    • which evidence are you talking about?

      • You are not looking for evidence to support Pranic healing but just looking to refute it and win your argument.. The words and tone of your replies to all the queries shows that… One important thing is to be receptive to healing for it to work.. Remember that

        • I will!
          but please show me the evidence you are non-stop talking about!

          • This is interesting debate. Edzard can you prove to me from where your thoughts are coming from. Prove that you are not being influenced by whatever. Prove that you have feelings. Prove that you love your children. Prove that you feel pain when your child dies. Thank you

          • are you feeling ok?
            your demand that I ‘prove’ anything to you sounds odd [which proves, I think, that I have feelings].

  • No way. You been asking for evidence and same am I. Give your evidence please. Thank you.

    • These so-called “scientific”-minded buzzards have already made up their minds. When they say they have tried or studied pranic healing they’re either lying or they only skim the surface with the intention to criticize and condemn. No, they do not have the public’s best interest in mind. Because if they do, they would consider this one thing : the possibility that every ordinary people would be able to help themselves and others without being dependent on traditional western medicine with its serious failures and (pharmaceutical) dangers. The amount of money spent in basic pranic healing course is a lifetime investment for one’s own and family health.

  • I have taken all their courses including the spiritual ones. It’s all a hoax. The teachers only care about money. I was told by an instructor that they are told to put a lie and fear in their marketing so that people take the higher classes. In all the events that I have attended, they only care and glorify people with money and power. The instructors are wackos too. Most of them are stupid. They prey on people with problems and make millions. Stay away from them!!!

    • Why did you take ALL their courses? In fact how many? What prompted you after paying for the first course to continue on to subsequent courses?

    • What a crap. You must be at least an idiot to give away so much money for something that can see from the first course if its a lie… You are not a pranic healer… !

  • Do you believe in hypnosis, counselling, therapy, prayer, meditation, mindfulness etc? Pranic healing and Reiki healing work along similar lines. Lots of hospitals in the UK and US and Australia have in house healers. Please google for confirmation. If it was complete crap, why would hospitals allow it. If something makes you feel good and better, where is the harm in it.

    • “Do you believe in hypnosis, counselling, therapy, prayer, meditation, mindfulness etc?”
      STRANGE QUESTION!
      healthcare should be about evidence, not belief.

    • P Relwani said:

      Lots of hospitals in the UK and US and Australia have in house healers. Please google for confirmation.

      No, you made the claim, you provide your substantiation. It’s not for others to do your work.

      • Hi Alan, I asked Bjorn Geir to provide confirmation of where he is registered as a medical doctor and bariatric surgeon. His reply suggested that he would ‘teach’ me how to do research rather than him provide the straight answer to the question.

        • LOL! Why come crying to me?

        • @Greg
          I could of course have given you a link long ago but since you are not forthcoming with any information about yourself, then why should I help you? It is much more fun to have you find it yourself and see how clueless you really are.
          It is unbelievable that you have not learnt to search the web yet? You seem to be able to write comments here and search for my posts on this blog so you can at least open a computer and should be able to use the internet. But you seem totally incapable when it comes to finding easily retrievable information such as my professional information. This is so strange. Are you unable to get help from your local librarian?
          When I use the most common search engines, the third and fourth item that come up lead to one of the largest business- and employment-oriented social networking services. There you should be able to find the answers to your questions in my public profile.

          I’ll give you one more hint. This one should be easy. Try letting the pointer hover over my “avatar” and see what happens. If you are smart enough it will lead you to the motherload 😉

          • Bjorn, you did ‘well’ to last as long as you have done on this blog (5 years).

            You gave yourself away in the beginning but then your writing improved.

            Most medical doctors proudly have their title before their name Dr. … You don’t.

            Bjorn Geir Leifsson studied medicine at the University of Iceland but on which medical register is he on?

            You have avoided answering this directly for a while now, and are still doing so.

            I prefer a LINK to the Medical Practitioner Register where your name is.

            Thank you.

          • I have decided to bin all further responses on this subject from you.
            this has gone far enough!

          • Here are links to the different authorities where I am at present actively registered as a licensed medical doctor, surgeon and health care administrator. I am not sure what you want to do with these links as the registrations are in different languages probably foreign to you. As I said before, your local library might be of assistance.
            https://helsedirektoratet.no/
            http://www.socialstyrelsen.se/
            http://www.landlaeknir.is/

          • he’ll want your grandmother’s marriage certificate next.

        • @Greg on Monday 04 September 2017 at 16:34

          I googled and found Björn Geir in the first entry on the first page. Can I surmise that one of us is a dill?

          • I would like to point something out here regarding this thread and what it has become. It is no longer about investigating the viable effectiveness of pranic healing. It has become an egoic attempt at attacking each other’s personal belief systems. And take note that such an attempt is a clear message that the attacker feels their personal beliefs are being threatened. If you’re secure with what you believe there’s no need to defend or attack. This is where worthwhile discussion is found. If you believe it’s a hoax and aren’t open to anything else then no need to discuss. State your belief and carry on with your life.

          • not quite!
            therapeutic claims require evidence.
            for me, this is not about belief but about the lack of evidence for pranic healing

          • Do not forget the question of prior probability of efficacy, which is purely speculative in PH.

          • @Walker Martin on Tuesday 05 September 2017 at 17:59

            “I would like to point something out here regarding this thread and what it has become. It is no longer about investigating the viable effectiveness of pranic healing.”

            It has none; that much is crystal clear. My guess is you have an interest in this nonsensical witchcraft, most likely financial.

            “It has become an egoic attempt at attacking each other’s personal belief systems.”

            Medicine, and all science, do not involve ‘belief systems’. Belief systems belong in pseudoscience.

            “And take note that such an attempt is a clear message that the attacker feels their personal beliefs are being threatened.”

            “take note”? Oh gosh, the drama of it all! Again, belief systems are in the realm of pseudoscience, oh profound one.

            “If you’re secure with what you believe there’s no need to defend or attack. This is where worthwhile discussion is found. If you believe it’s a hoax and aren’t open to anything else then no need to discuss.”

            Such a simple and simplistic viewpoint. Is there any ‘worthwhile discussion’ to be had in some attempting to validate a form of supernatural non-medicine? Those who try to support nonsense must have their thoughts critiqued. While I am at it, it is the idea being attacked; no idea, concept, or belief is above analysis or criticism, except to relativists, seemingly such as you.

            “State your belief and carry on with your life.”

            With thinking like that, we wouldn’t progressed even to the Bronze Age.

          • @Walker Martin on Tuesday 05 September 2017 at 17:59

            Are you this Martin Walker?
            http://www.slingshotpublications.com/martin-j-walker

  • Ιf P.H was a lie the number of Pranic Healers will not be increased by thousands every day…Bad for you…I KNOW 🙂
    Open your mind and you will see.

  • You have not published the data that I provided

    • if you read my comment from earlier today, you will see this:

      I have decided to bin all further responses on this subject from you.
      this has gone far enough!

    • @Greg on Tuesday 05 September 2017 at 15:43

      What gives you the right to demand information about others when you are anonymous?

      Reveal your identity then you may have a case.

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