The US Health Secretary Robert F Kennedy (JFKJr) famously claimed that vitamin A could work “as a prophylaxis” of measles infection. That claim is not just wrong, it also is dangerous. Overuse of vitamin A can have serious health consequences. As a result of JFKJr yet again promoting dangerous nonsense, doctors treating patients during the measles outbreak in Texas and New Mexico are now facing the problem of vitamin A toxicity.
At Covenant Children’s Hospital in Lubbock, near the outbreak’s epicenter, several patients have been found to have abnormal liver function on routine lab tests, a probable sign that they’ve taken too much of the vitamin, according to Dr. Lara Johnson, pediatric hospitalist and chief medical officer for Covenant Health-Lubbock Service Area.
Vitamin A is fat-soluble. It therefore accumulate in organs like the liver when over-doesed. Excess vitamin A can cause dry skin and eyes, blurry vision, bone thinning, skin irritation, liver damage and other serious issues. In pregnant women, it can even lead to birth defects. Recovery for patients with acute toxicity is normally rapid, if the vitamin is discontinued. But the more serious problems with vitamin A toxicity are not always reversible.
The Council for Responsible Nutrition, a trade association for dietary supplement and functional food manufacturers, issued a statement warning parents against using high doses of vitamin A to try to keep their children from getting measles. “While vitamin A plays an important role in supporting overall immune function, research hasn’t established its effectiveness in preventing measles infection. CRN is concerned about reports of high-dose vitamin A being used inappropriately, especially in children,” the statement says.
JFKJr made his remarks in an interview with Fox News medical correspondent Dr. Marc Siegel. Snippets of the interview were featured in four Fox News or Fox Business segments airing on March 4. “They have treated most of the patients, actually, over 108 patients in the last 48 hours. And they’re getting very, very good results, they report from budesonide, which is a steroid, it’s a 30-year-old steroid,” Kennedy said in the longest of the segments. “And clarithromycin [an antibiotic] and also cod liver oil, which has high concentrations of vitamin A and vitamin D. We need to look at those therapies and other therapies,” he said in another segment. “We need to really do a good job of talking to the front-line doctors and see what is working on the ground, because those therapeutics have really been ignored by the agency for a long, long time.”
Local doctors are increasingly concerned about the growing popularity of unproven remedies for preventing and treating measles. They fear that they are causing people to delay critical medical treatment and to reject vaccination, the only proven way to prevent a measles infection.
The measles outbreak has now affected at least 379 people across Texas, New Mexico and Oklahoma. Kansas has reported 23 measles cases, and officials said that they may also be linked to the outbreak. The best measure to get to grips with the outbreak, I think, would be to make JFKJr shut up and let those who understans the issues get on with it.
This administration is excelling at dangerous incompetence and we can’t say Americans weren’t warned. Repeatedly!! Bunch of miscreants led by a serial sex abuser what could possibly go wrong?
yes, one might be very cross with the Americans – those who voted for the felon AND those you did not vote at all!
I fear that this bad news will be followed by many more. RFK Jr. is for a certain group of people (some of whom are commenting here) a preaching sort of “Jesus” who is doing a proverbial “cleansing of the temple” because he is messing with “Big Pharma” and the “criminal” medical system. And when “Jesus” eventually tells his disciples that they should wash their hands with sulphuric acid to remove dangerous pathogens, they will follow his lead.
… until RFKJr falls out with Trump – to be followed by another quack, presumably.
And here is the end result of RFKs and others brainwashing. Having a child die from a vaccine preventable disease must be heartbreaking but to still buy into the antivax nonsense is equally sad and disheartening. Welcome to the great American regression.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/measles-outbreak-texas-child-dead-parents-anti-vax-b2718899.html
This is how they obfuscate:
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/jon-stewart-ezra-klein
This is how to defeat it:
https://www.vigilantfox.com/p/rfk-jr-drops-stunning-vaccine-announcement
@oldbob
So the economy is tanking, measles outbreaks spreading, highly sensitive messages sent to journalists, censorship of media, open support of putin and oh look people who voted for trump losing their jobs (see link below) . Veterans no less, talk about being stabbed in the front.
I think OLD BOB you may be suffering from dry rot between the lugholes.
It is true that as one link points out that they are going at breakneck speed. However, by my calculation at the current rate they will have regressed to single cell organisms by April.
https://time.com/7265084/veterans-fired-trump-doge-federal-jobs/q
@Dave
Couple of very important items to add to your list:
Immigrants getting detained on the street by masked men and held without due process:
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/rumeysa-ozturk-arrested-ice-tufts-20250327.html
Law firms targeted by the administration:
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/03/28/jenner-block-eo-lawsuit-trump-00256160
I don’t know if OldBob understand this but at this point he is gleefully cheering for the destruction of democracy.
@Dave
Don’t forget the complete disappearance of hundreds of people without due process, and the detainment under inhuman circumstances of people with valid visas and green cards, also without due process – because of the ‘crime’ of exercising their freedom of speech.
Also see
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/federal-immigration-authorities-detain-international-tufts-graduate-st-rcna198158
And the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-fSpi7ZHoQ
The excuse from the Trump regime is the good ‘ole fascist cop-out: “Supporting terrorism” – yet no charges have been filed so far, and she is still locked up.
@talker and @ richard rasker
Thank you both, there are so many it’s difficult to keep track. I think this may in fact be the desired outcome.
Friday Funnies:
https://www.malone.news/p/friday-funnies-the-wormy-woke-apple
Peace and Love.
OB,
Some one would like to invite you to their kid’s measles party: https://prospect.org/health/2025-03-28-how-to-throw-measles-party-to-remember/
You can entertain the kids with stories about how people survived the Spanish flu and attained natural immunity. Leave that bottle of organic carrot juice at home, because the theme of the party is “how fast one can catch measles for an excellent natural immunity” not “how fast one can “prevent” measles with Vitamin A”.
I already got invited:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5289k-dbOMY
Apparently they interviewed you as well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rIhOPOzlvTA
🤣
This is how you lie. This is how you die.
Cuomo was part of the propaganda, until he got the shot:
‘You sound like an idiot’: CNN host ridicules anti-vaxx restaurant owner who won’t let in vaccinated customers:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cnn-chris-cuomo-covid-antivaxx-restaurant-b1893113.html
“NewsNation anchor Chris Cuomo admitted to suffering from side effects he believes were caused by the COVID-19 vaccine.”:
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/may/6/chris-cuomo-newsnation-anchor-says-hes-been-affect/
You post links that you don’t know about.
Which links did I post, mole? No one. 😀
By the way, Cuoma once says that Long Covid was caused by the vaccination, another time that it occurred after his infection. So could it be that he is just putting on airs? 😛
https://boingboing.net/2024/01/07/journalist-chris-cuomo-opens-up-about-his-struggle-with-long-covid.html
Thanks Edzard, Im a retired GP and doIng my little bit to attempt to push back the avalanche of anti science with RFKJr at its helm right now. I don’t like comparisons with the Nazis, but Trumpism is a modern, 21st century form of fascism with increasing control of the media and public discourse. How to shut him up? The reverse is happening with many CDC experts resigning. Is disheartening, but we must all keep going. Roll on the mid-terms, but I wonder what Trump will do with a Democrat led Senate? The mind boggles…..
https://drcolinbannon.substack.com/p/kennedys-shit-shows-next-episode
Keep up the good work!
my fear is that, by mid-term, little is left of US democracy.
Trump is already taking aim at the voting process by pushing measures that will disenfranchise lots of mostly Democrat-leaning voters.
It is also expected that he will meddle with the election committees who are responsible for counting votes, making sure that those committees are staffed by sycophants who are willing to declare votes ‘fraudulent’ or otherwise invalid when in favor of Democrats. And there are probably more measures under way to make sure that Republicans and thus Trump stay in power.
All of these things are of course illegal for him to do, but even when federal judges intervene, elections will likely become a chaotic mess in which Republicans will declare themselves the winners.
The main problem is that Trump has no respect whatsoever for any laws or even the Constitution, and simply declares that he can do whatever he wants to do.
Democrats on the other hand take care to work within the confines of the law – which means that they are more or less fighting with one hand tied behind their back. Then again, I think that Democrats are still not doing nearly enough to get their act together and mobilize people to stand up to the lies, the bullying and the unlawful actions of the Trump regime.
Trump complied with everything that the deep-state started throwing at him after he decided to go into politics and despite everything: The Steele dossier, Big-Tech-censorship, impeachments, lawfare and assassination attempts, he prevailed.
The good thing about all of this is that the deep-state exposed itself for what it is, and now even more so as it fights back – it either releases the files and exposes itself or redacts them and exposes itself – and folks are seeing, maybe for the first time, the horror of it all, that forces democrats to distance themselves from it.
Who wants to be associated with Hunter Biden, Kamala Harris, Fani Willis / Nathan Wade? Or Zuckerberg etc?
is there a conspiracy theory that you don’t believe in, gullible Bob?
Zuckerberg has submitted to Emperor Donald. Like Bezos. That is why they were both invited to Donald’s enthronement ceremony in January.
Dumb, dumber, dumbest, Old Bob 😀
Meanwhile:
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/fdas-top-vaccine-scientist-dr-peter-marks-rcna198682
Perfect time to fire the guy in charge of vaccines and let RFK Jr hawk vitamin A pills. Trump admin’s profile in competence.
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/opinion/outlook/article/experts-vaccinate-people-bird-flu-20217996.php
I wonder where all the antivaxx loons are lurking these days. I bet they think big vitamin is behind this. Create demand, snuff out competition and sell more vitamin pills.
more here: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/rfk-jr-to-gut-vaccine-promotion-and-hiv-prevention-office-sources-say/
Baby Tragically Dies After 6 Shots of 12 Vaccines:
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/events/trending-news-segments/baby-tragically-dies-after-6-shots/
@Old Sod:
As usual, you got the headline wrong. Please allow me to correct it:
Kennedy Kills 80 Samoan Babies By Pushing Antivaccine Lies
Strange enough, the Children’s Health Defense Website does not mention these (fully preventable) deaths at all.
(and oh: ‘After’ ≠ ‘Caused by’)
The danger of blanket-vaccination as a fits-all-solution without taking the patient into consideration == Communism.
Taking the patient first and considering what is best == Objective Capitalism.
Communism is always deadly, sooner or later.
Giving folks the freedom to choose is sometimes deadly, but that’s their choice, not the choice of the Government. It is impossible to keep folks safe from themselves, from driving too fast, eating too much, smoking, flying hang gliders, or taking medication etc. Today in the UK, people go to jail for writing something on FB, to keep other people “safe” – that is Communism. If you want it, you already have it, congratulations.
have you heard of the concept of ‘herd immunity’?
look it up
@Edzard
OB might also want to look up the definitions of ‘communism’, ‘freedom’ and most other multisyllabic words that he uses but clearly doesn’t know the meaning of.
Herd immunity is as old as life itself, it *is* life, and the reason we are here, looking at each other.
We don’t understand how it works in the sense that it is chaotic i.e. nature herself does not know as it is a work-in-progress, constantly adapting to constantly changing surroundings e.g. as wave after wave of mutation strikes, so each generation, or rather each child, gains its own peculiar immunity on-the-fly that is then carried for life through the human-pool so that there was, (before mass vaccination) a continuum of herd immunity through a life-span of nigh unlimited variety, such that and in combination with personal-variance, no version of that disease (or any other) can possibly wipe out an entire generation.
In other words it is not the conformity-of-mass-vaccination that gives herd immunity, but the opposite: mass-variety of natural immunity.
Are you competing for the post of BULLSHITTER-IN-CHIEF?
This is what path to “natural” immunity looks like.
https://www.archives.gov/news/topics/flu-pandemic-1918
Old Bob has always been on a weird path, to put it mildly. In the meantime, however, I have diagnosed him as crazy, a conspiracy theorist, a troll.
Even DUllman sounds like a rational analyst next to Bob.
I think the best way to deal with Troll Bob is to ignore him as much as possible. His goal is not to learn things or even to present interesting or relevant information, but to garner attention and waste our time by dumping one load of crap after another. And alas, there is easily enough crap out there to completely flood this blog, so debunking it piece by piece is pretty useless.
Media Reports of Vitamin A Toxicity in Kids Being Treated for Measles ‘Misleading,’ Doctor Says:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/vitamin-a-toxicity-kids-measles-misleading-news-reports/
one must be intellectually challenged to read what CHD put out!!!
Medic not involved in the clinical care of those children, so having no access to notes, responds to media reports, most likely written by journos with no medical or scientific knowledge. His views then published on RFK Jr’s pet site, which has banners claiming that they are being “censored”…And somehow I could read it. All my browser settings and security must help me evade that nasty “censorship”.
I’m convinced!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Defense
Babbling Bob, faithful acolyte of the Holy Church of CHD, prays daily to St. Robert.
“How Peter Marks’ role in the COVID vaccine debacle exposed the flaws in America’s toxic health bureaucracy”:
https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/why-did-the-fda-hide-vaccine-injuries
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To illustrate, consider this quote from Peter Rost, a former executive at Pfizer and one of the few pharmaceutical leaders to speak out against the industry:
It is scary how many similarities there are between this industry and the mob. The mob makes obscene amounts of money, as does this industry. The side effects of organized crime are killings and deaths, and the side effects are the same in this industry. The mob bribes politicians and others, and so does the drug industry … The difference is, all these people in the drug industry look upon themselves – well, I’d say 99 percent, anyway – look upon themselves as law-abiding citizens, not as citizens who would ever rob a bank … However, when they get together as a group and manage these corporations, something seems to happen … to otherwise good citizens when they are part of a corporation. It’s almost like when you have war atrocities; people do things they don’t think they’re capable of. When you’re in a group, people can do things they otherwise wouldn’t, because the group can validate what you’re doing as okay.
[end of quote]
@Truther Boc
Your “Midwestern Doctor” is lying conspiracy theorist. And your are an idiot. Peter Rost’s quote is from year 2006(!) and has nothing to do with the development of Corona vaccines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Rost_(doctor)
You posted:
“Peter Rost is an American former drug marketing executive who is most known for taking public stances critical of the pharmaceutical industry as an “insider” and whistleblower.”
So no wonder he will be constantly attacked, mocked, ridiculed, insulted etc by MSM (e.g. Wikipedia) i.e. the Mob.
Peter Rost does not matter. You have once again been caught posting bullshit (i.e. a 20 year old quote taken out of context) and are now trying to deflect with desperate hand waving and firing off smokescreens, @Hypocrite Bob.
BTW, @Death-worshipper Bob, another unvaccinated child died in Texas by measles.
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2025/04/06/texas-measles-outbreak-second-death/82962586007/
Breaking News: Another Texas Child Dies a Tragic Death After Recovering from Measles
Apparent medical mismanagement in a Texas Hospital has taken another child’s life.:
https://www.malone.news/p/breaking-news-another-texas-child
@Hypocrite Bob
More breaking news:
Robert Malone is the conspiracy theorist who laid some groundwork for the mRNA technology, but never got over the fact that it was not him, but Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissmann who received the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2023. Since then, he has been trying to denigrate mRNA vaccines, even though, as I said, he is one of their founding fathers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_W._Malone
PS: You are and always will be a trolling idiot.
@RPGNo1
While Truther Bob is truthing around by spreading lies and disinformation, there is a surge in measles cases in Texas last week: https://www.texastribune.org/2025/02/18/texas-measles-outbreak-climbs/ and to nobody’s surprise most of the cases are among unvaccinated: https://www.dshs.texas.gov/news-alerts/measles-outbreak-2025
The Deafening Silence of Labour’s Lord Covid:
https://www.pressreader.com/uk/the-scottish-mail-on-sunday/20250406/282179361905535
https://www.respectfulinsolence.com/?s=midwestern+doctor
A selection of takedowns of A Midwestern Doctor’s anti-vax, and other, nonsense.
Can we have some more credible sources than eejits like this one?
More credible than Gorski believing the lab leak is a conspiracy theory?
@Pigeon Chess Bob
This thread is about RFK Jr and measles and not about Corona or Long Covid. So why are you diverting attention and changing the subjec to Corona?
And by the way, the overwhelming majority of scientists still believe that COVID-19 is a zoonosis based on the available data. Some intelligence agencies (and conspiracy theorists like you) claim that a laboratory accident in Wuhan is the real cause of the pandemic. But their evidence for this is too thin.
Measles Propaganda
Corruption at the highest levels:
https://www.malone.news/p/measles-propaganda
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In the currently ongoing outbreak, there have been about 572 measles cases in Ontario, Canada. This is a significantly larger outbreak than the currently hyped one in Texas, which has about 422 cases. The mainstream media has almost completely ignored the Ontario outbreak – their reporting has only focused on the Texas outbreak.
Ontario’s top public health official Dr. Kieran Moore does not recommend mandatory vaccination and says the standard public health measures to limit the spread are working. This is a very reasonable response, yet when Sec. Kennedy says something similar; he is viciously attacked.
It is evident by the mainstream media response to the Ontario outbreak versus the Texas outbreak – that this is yet another example of the liberal media/pharma machine harassing Sec. Kennedy and Pres. Trump.
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[end of quote]
OH, DEAR!
What is ‘harassing RFKJr is perhaps his brain worm or his cocain abuse or his bias/obsession or his lack of sound knowledge.
copy-paste
@Hypocrite Bob
More breaking news:
Robert Malone is the conspiracy theorist who laid some groundwork for the mRNA technology, but never got over the fact that it was not him, but Katalin Karikó and Drew Weissmann who received the Nobel Prize for Medicine in 2023. Since then, he has been trying to denigrate mRNA vaccines, even though, as I said, he is one of their founding fathers.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_W._Malone
PS: You are and always will be a trolling idiot.
And RFK has unequivocally endorsed his support for the MMR vaccine.
https://www.statnews.com/2025/04/06/rfk-jr-measles-statement-west-texas-outbreak/
about a decade too late!!!
EudraVigilance insights: Suspected adverse drug reactions in infants through breastfeeding…
I will no longer post you unrelated nonsense
Edzard Ernst
I think I better curtail your trolling a bit, OB
Measles cases are surging in US becuase MMR vaccination rates dropped due to anti-vax propaganda: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/04/23/measles-vaccine-misinformation-poll/
On top of measles, whooping cough cases are going up: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/04/22/whooping-cough-pertussis-cases-rise/
What’s next for US? Polio? Smallpox?
How surprising. Not really.