Measles had been declared eliminated from the US in 2000. Now the disease is back with a vengeance. In February, an unvaccinated Texan child became the first person in a decade to die from measles in the US. Another death occurred in New Mexico.
The reason for the outbreak is simple: the uptake of the measles vaccine dropped below the 95% rate that is necessary for herd immunity. In the region where the current outbreak began, only 82% of the kids were vaccinated. This triggered the outbreak and, in turn, might mean that the US will lose its ‘measles elimination status’.
Only days after his appointment, Trump pledged to withdraw the United States from the World Health Organization and to drastically cut the US Agency for International Development. Both moves are likely to cause more cases of measles and similarly vaccine-preventable diseases in the US and around the world. To make matters worse, Trump administration has fired hundreds of workers from the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
And to make matters even worse, Trump appointed Robert F. Kennedy Jr., one of the US most deluded antivaxer. Since being appointed, Kennedy has downplayed the importance of the current measles outbreak, postponed a meeting of the CDC vaccine advisers, made statements like “vaccinations are over-rated” and claimed that good nutrition and treatment with vitamin A as ways to reduce measles severity. He even praised the benefits of cod liver oil as a measure against measles. “There are adverse events from the vaccine,” Kennedy said in a March 11 interview. “It does cause deaths every year. It causes all the illnesses that measles itself causes, encephalitis and blindness, et cetera. And so people ought to be able to make that choice for themselves.” Further confirming his cluelessness Kennedy also stated: “When you and I were kids, everybody got measles, and measles gave you … lifetime protection against measles infection. The vaccine doesn’t do that… The vaccine wanes 4.5% per year.”
But Kennedy does not just propagate BS in interviews, he also plans to investigate whether vaccines cause autism — an assumption that has been discredited ad nauseam. A spokesperson for the US Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS) said: “The rate of autism in American children has skyrocketed. CDC will leave no stone unturned in its mission to figure out what exactly is happening.”
Meanwhile in Texas, some parents, who evidently believe Kennedy’s deluded nonsense, are giving unvaccinated children vitamin A, which, of course, is toxic at high doses.
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an update:
36 more measles cases announced in Texas today, 259 total so far in Texas during this outbreak, 34 people have been hospitalized. Only 2% had full 2-shot measles vaccination. 95% unvaccinated or unknown vaccine status.
If you watch this week’s episode 415, of T..H…W…, two children with measles, with <80% O2 in their blood were recovered in 24 hours using a steroid of 30 years standing + a common antibiotic – starts at about 01:27:00 into the programme.
Ten children are involved between two families, three of the parents who were vaccinated, caught measles too.
All children were unvaccinated.
All members of both families fully recovered.
The first little girl was air-lifted to the hospital where the family physician explained the treatment to the local hospital doctor who then followed it. The next day the child was discharged at 3:30
The family physician had 34 years of practice and had never seen a case of measles before this. As he explains, a fellow MD had already used the steroid successfully, and passed that info on to him.
If the hospital doctor had not been advised, who knows what would have happened, maybe another death?
(The second child had a feeding tube and other problems and was treated at home as only the mother was familiar with her other special needs.)
Antibiotics? Are you so stupid that you do not even know that measles are a viral disease? Antibiotics are used to combat bacteria and are absolutely ineffective against viruses, ignorant liar!
@RPGNo1
… not to mention the 100% made-up ‘recovery in 24 hours’.
Folks don’t die of “covid” or “measles” but of secondary bacterial pneumonia according to the Dr. Above, he explains it carefully, and it must be given immediately – watch it – at 01:43:26, with the right antibiotic because some don’t work, also, using the steroid on its own likely won’t work.
You now trust doctors? That’s news to me 😂
Maybe it’s a good thing you do. Most doctors recommend vaccination. I think you are clamouring to get in line at a vaccine clinic. 🤣
@Old Bob
Then this ‘Dr. Above’ does not know what he is talking about, and should immediately hand in his license to prevent him from killing people. Pneumonia and other serious complications of measles including encephalitis can absolutely be caused by the virus itself. Same with COVID-19 and lots of other viral diseases.
Vaccination is by far the best approach, since it prevents measles. But you never mention this.
The appearance of Dr Above is a surprise. He was probably always here. We are only transient. Show some respect.
NB some viral infections, including measles, are known to cause pneumonitis that can be severe enough to result in death.
“Pneumonitis is distinguished from pneumonia on the basis of causation as well as its manifestation.”
— Wikipedia
The most important cause of death and permanent brain injury from measles is infection of the brain with inflamation and swelling.
Remember the death of Olivia Dahl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olivia_Dahl
At 01:41:09 the doctor explains that RFK Jr. phones him and talks for 20-30 minutes (about his results with measles treatment) as he says, “…who does that? Who checks on the patients? As part of the Federal Healthcare System? Never before!…”
(these cases are in Seminole, TX).
Once upon a time
On February 31, 25:89 h, RFK Jr. phones with @Lying Bob and talks with about the sycophantic adoration that Bob shows him. “Who does that? Who checks on British citizen as part of the US goverment? Never before!” Bob exclaims.
And he lived happily ever after. 😀 😀
😂😂
Parody, nicely done! RPGNo1
Here are details of a child’s death in Seminole TX:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/parents-daughter-death-texas-measles-outbreak-chd-tv/
You promulgated the disinformation: ‘Folks don’t die of “covid” or “measles” ’
@Old Bob
Yes, children can die of measles – and this is easily preventable using the MMR vaccines. So parents should have their children vaccinated, and not listen to antivaxx ignoranuses who mess around with cod liver oil and other completely useless treatments. Or to you, for that matter.
After 3 Children Died Within 24 Hours of Routine Vaccines, Japanese Researchers Sound Alarm:
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/3-children-died-24-hours-routine-vaccines-japanese-researchers/
[quote]
Citing the deaths of three Japanese children within 24 hours of receiving routine childhood immunizations, the authors of a peer-reviewed study called for a reevaluation of the “risks and benefits of currently approved vaccines” and a review of the childhood vaccination schedule.
The study, published March 14 in Discover Medicine by Dr. Kenji Yamamoto, a cardiothoracic surgeon at Okamura Memorial Hospital in Japan, also addressed the increase in post-vaccination adverse events following the introduction of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines in Japan.
The study noted that Japan also has recorded an abnormal increase in excess deaths — or deaths above the amount expected under normal conditions — in the years since the COVID-19 vaccines were introduced.
[end of quote]
Once again: Children’s Health Defense is RFK Jr. personal mouthpiece. It is “mainly known for anti-vaccine misinformation, and which has been called one of the main sources of misinformation on vaccines”. You are biting your own tail, @Trolling Bob.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Defense
You are trying to shoot the wrong messenger, here is the source:
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s44337-025-00274-0
The author is Kenji Yamamoto
@Old Bob
Now I already started this comment explaining in detail that the article you link to literally says that causality between vaccination and adverse effects could not be established, that excess deaths can’t be linked to vaccination either, and that there are several other serious shortcomings.
But then I realized that I was needlessly wasting time and energy, and that the following is just as good a response:
You are an idiot.
Spamming troll Old Bob’s fallacy is an appeal to false authority.
CHD wrote:
“the authors”: Kenji Yamamoto is the sole author.
“of a peer-reviewed study”: no, it is just a COMMENT.
https://link.springer.com/content/pdf/10.1007/s44337-025-00274-0.pdf
Kenji Yamamoto (0000-0003-4482-5816) – ORCID
A family member works in a local supermarket with 400 employees and during 2020, it was a big thing when half a dozen staff tested positive for covid. Apart from that nothing else happened.
I was out all the time sourcing organic veg for grinding from multiple supermarkets and never caught anything.
The trick seems to be to live in the countryside, eat healthy food and get out and get the Sun.
I stopped having the flu shot when I got the cancer and never had a covid shot or any other shot since 2018.
My experience is similar to that episode of the Brady Bunch ( I caught everything as a child, measles, mumps and a whole load of other things, we all did in the 1960s ).
If you think fear-of-covid is bad, try getting advanced prostate cancer! That sure concentrates the mind. My oncologist had the covid jab and he has since caught covid multiple times (my appointments are telephone appointments and sometimes he phones from home). Me, I don’t get colds anymore, let alone flu, it’s the diet.
Biden caught covid after a covid shot, so did Trudeau.
thank you for this bonanza in stupidity.
More here: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2831829?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=content-shareicons&utm_content=article_engagement&utm_medium=social&utm_term=031825
Breaking News: Hospital Records In Texas Measles Death Released To CHD:
https://live.childrenshealthdefense.org/chd-tv/shows/good-morning-chd/breaking-news-doctors-review-texas-measles-medical-records/
[quote]
We, at Children’s Health Defense, have obtained access to the medical records of the girl in Texas with measles who died. After analyzing the documents, Pierre Kory, M.D. has come to the conclusion that this child, unequivocally, “did not die of measles.” His expert assessment on this death is that it resulted from a “grievous” medical error, not purely a breathing condition or viral illness like the media would like us to believe. In this exclusive interview, Dr. Kory outlines the facts about this case. He explains how the hospital failed to treat with the proper antibiotics at the proper time and allowed for her to die “catastrophically” in a state of shock. We also hear from Ben Edwards, M.D. — the doctor who has been treating this family and the other Mennonite families in the area. Dr. Edwards shares how the community has been responding to this outbreak and their perspective on the untimely loss, a “tragic mistake.”
[end of quote]
CHD?
really, you are surpassing yourself in idiocy!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Children%27s_Health_Defense
And Kory?
are you serious?
In August 2023, the American Board of Internal Medicine informed Kory his certifications were to be revoked for spreading medical misinformation.[5] As of August 2024, Kory’s three certifications are listed as “not certified, revoked” on ABIM’s website. [6]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre_Kory
Edzard on Wednesday 19 March 2025 at 17:11
“American Board of Internal Medicine informed Kory his certifications were to be revoked for spreading medical misinformation.”
“He completed his medical education at St. George’s University in Grenada, West Indies, graduating with a Doctor of Medicine (MD) degree and completed residency and fellowship training in critical care and pulmonary medicine. He did clinical rotations at the Weill Cornell School of Medicine. Kory first practiced in Madison, Wisconsin, at UW Health, which is the academic medical center at the University of Wisconsin. He served there as the medical director for the Trauma and Life Support Center, in the outpatient pulmonary medicine clinic, where he performed bronchoscopic and pleural procedures. Kory was the critical care service chief at the UW Health University Hospital (part of the University of Wisconsin School of Medicine and Public Health) until May 2020. He later joined Aurora St. Luke’s Medical Center in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, before becoming a locum tenens physician.
In 2015, along with his two co-editors, Kory won the British Medical Association’s 2015 President’s Choice award in medical textbooks for their work on Point of Care Ultrasound.”
Are you implying that revoking certification takes away the doctor’s ability to use his education and training to make analysis of a medical case outcome?
No
Are you implying that revoking certification enhances the doctor’s ability to use his education and training to make analysis of a medical case outcome?
Edzard on Thursday 20 March 2025 at 08:50
“Are you implying that revoking certification enhances the doctor’s ability to use his education and training to make analysis of a medical case outcome?”
A doctor who has a medical education (MD), “completed residency and fellowship training in critical care and pulmonary medicine”, ” served as the medical director for the Trauma and Life Support Center, in the outpatient pulmonary medicine clinic, where he performed bronchoscopic and pleural procedures, was considered good enough to “win the British Medical Association’s 2015 President’s Choice award in medical textbooks for their work on Point of Care Ultrasound.” loses his certification and becomes an imbecile overnight?
What is the value of the education, training and experience of a doctor in the allopathic system that as per you is evidence based? For how many years would he have been killing his patients with his wrong decisions? The system took action ONLY when he came up with his own protocol for Covid treatment which went against the system’s recommendation?
How many doctors had their certification revoked for this study?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7886121/
I am positive they would have used this drug on patients as routine after their study.
Revoking certification has NOTHING to do with medical decisions. It is a tool to keep monkeys on leash.
oh, dear!
@Krishna
Yes – albeit in an indirect way. Revoking a certification happens for a REASON.
Kory’s certification was revoked because he betrayed and rejected his education and training, and started spreading lies and misinformation about medical conditions. This means he can no longer be trusted to make correct medical analyses.
Just like you, an uneducated fool, can’t be trusted to say anything remotely sensible about medicine and science.
Richard Rasker on Thursday 20 March 2025 at 09:25
“Kory’s certification was revoked because he betrayed and rejected his education and training, and started spreading lies and misinformation about medical conditions. This means he can no longer be trusted to make correct medical analyses.”
REALLY????????
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7886121/
How many doctors fired for this study and subsequent use?
https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/08000/ivermectin_for_prevention_and_treatment_of.7.aspx
How many doctors used this “evidence based medicine” on their patients? How many were fired?
@Krishna
Not sure what you’re trying to say here, but doctors all over the world who pushed ivermectin after it was found to be useless against COVID-19 were indeed warned, disciplined and – in more egregious cases – stripped of their license or even fired.
We had one or two of those doctors here in the Netherlands as well. As they refused to admit that they were doing things wrong, they were considered a danger to their patients, and thus are no longer allowed to practice medicine. Basically the same as with Kory.
@Krishna
The presented studies are from February or August 2021, respectively. They have since been refuted many times because they proved to be erroneous, misleading or fraudulent
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivermectin_during_the_COVID-19_pandemic
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-58170809
This is Dr Kory’s presentation to the EU:
https://rumble.com/v2mwnz0-dr.-pierre-kory-testifies-to-european-parliament-may3-2023.html
Anyone can watch a couple of minutes of it or take the words of the gentlemen above.
*sigh*
WHAT WAS CLAIMED
The European Parliament has declared that COVID-19 is a fraud at a recent conference.
OUR VERDICT
False. The conference, which was held within the European Parliament building, was not an official event. The legislative body has distanced itself from comments made at the event.
https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/no-the-european-parliament-has-not-declared-covid-19-a-fraud/
are you really that provocatively stupid?
Once Bob was the embarrassing older relative who made people roll their eyes with his stories at parties. He has now mutated into a full-time troll, who fills the comment columns with dangereous rubbish.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(slang)
@RPGNo1
I see Old Bob more like a kind of sewer blockage, causing the house to flood with crap on a regular basis.
Interesting thought.
@RPGNo1 @ Richard
I think OB is like a housefly that goes to a nearby manure pile for breakfast and visits your house for lunch and spreads manure all over your kitchen and food. You cannot reason with it; therefore, the options are, do you want to keep swatting at it every time it comes into your kitchen? Or do you want to keep their kitchen window closed?