The aim of this study was to investigate the prevalence and type of so-called alternative medicine (SCAM) use as well as potential factors related to SCAM use in a representative sample of US adults with self-reported post-COVID-19. This secondary data analysis was based on data from the 2022 National Health Interview Survey 2022 (NHIS) regarding presence of post-COVID-19 symptoms and CM use in a representative adult sample (weighted n = 89,437,918).
Our estimates indicate that 19.7% of those who reported having a symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infection experienced post-COVID-19 symptoms and 46.2% of those reported using any type of SCAM in the last 12 months. Specifically, post-COVID-19 respondents used most often:
- mind-body medicine (32.0%),
- massage (16.1%),
- chiropractic (14.4%),
- acupuncture (3.4%),
- naturopathy (2.2%),
- art and/or music therapy (2.1%).
Reporting post-COVID-19 was associated with an increased likelihood of using any SCAM in the last 12 months (AOR = 1.18, 95% CI [1.03, 1.34], p = 0.014) and specifically to visit an art and/or music therapist (AOR = 2.56, 95% CI [1.58, 4.41], p < 0.001). The overall use of any SCAM was more likely among post-COVID-19 respondents under 65 years old, females, those with an ethnical background other than Hispanic, African-American, Asian or Non-Hispanic Whites, having a higher educational level, living in large metropolitan areas and having a private health insurance.
The authors concluded that their findings show a high prevalence of SCAM use among post-COVID-19 respondents which highlights the need for further investigations on effectiveness, safety and possible mechanisms of action.
SCAM-use tends to be particularly high for conditions that conventional medicine cannot cure. Thus it is hardly surprising that post-COVID-19 patients employ it frequently. The question is – as the authors rightly stress – which post-COVID-19 symptoms responds best to which treatment? The range of symptoms of post-COVID-19 is wide, and the range of therapeutic options to alleviate them is even wider. What we need is a series of well-designed comparative studies testing both the most so-called alternative as well as the many conventional options.
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The scam going on here is:
The “safe and effective” lie.
The lockdown lie.
The masking lie.
The mandates used to enforce the lies.
The lethal misuse of ventilators.
The repression of early treatment (wait till you turn blue).
The misuse of PCR tests as a “diagnostic” tool (Mullis said no).
Etc.
thanks for confirming once again that you are a conspiration theorist.
Indeed. I think this is what is called a ‘full house’ when playing bullshit bingo.
Mullis suffered from Nobel’s disease in his late life and and transformed himself into a conspiracy theorist and pseudoscientist. A kindred spirit, as you yourself are aware.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis#Views_on_HIV/AIDS_and_climate_change
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis#Interest_in_the_supernatural
Higher rates of excess deaths correlate with higher vaccination rates.
https://open.substack.com/pub/theethicalskeptic/p/the-state-of-things-pandemic-week-b3b?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
and what have they forgot to teach you at school?
CORRELATION IS NOT CAUSATION!!!
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RG“John”An independent Dutch research institute found the exact opposite:
https://www.nivel.nl/nl/publicatie/oversterfte-tijdens-de-covid-19-pandemie-onderzoek-onder-mensen-met-en-zonder-covid-19
The Google Translate version of this page:
https://www-nivel-nl.translate.goog/nl/publicatie/oversterfte-tijdens-de-covid-19-pandemie-onderzoek-onder-mensen-met-en-zonder-covid-19?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=nl&_x_tr_pto=wapp
Another source based on the same study:
https://nltimes.nl/2024/09/02/unvaccinated-twice-likely-die-covid-vaccinated-nivel
Summarized: yep, there are excess deaths. AND THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCEPTION AMONG UNVACCINATED PEOPLE. Vaccinated people show a lower than expected mortality – as expected, because COVID vaccines are extremely safe and quite effective.
So please stop being an antivaxx dimwit, and stop regurgitating the lies from other antivaxx dimwits.
@richard rasker
and here is even more pesky data, explained by an actual scientist, that excess deaths are not related to vaccination, quite the opposite in fact.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoP33N4Qw8Q
@Richard Rasker
“Nivel studied the excess mortality in the Netherlands in pandemic years 2021 and 2022 among people who got vaccinated against the coronavirus, and those who chose not to.”
If in fact that was true…
That was then, the point is what is happening now. excess deaths TODAY !
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RG“John”So what you’re saying is that COVID vaccines reduced all-causes mortality by almost 50% 2-3 years ago, but increase mortality now?
Yeah, sure. You are not exactly the brightest bulb in the chandelier, now are you?
If there are still excess deaths today (and yes, I think there are), then those are not causally linked to vaccination, but to COVID-19 itself, and maybe some of the measures to curb the disease.
You know, that viral infection that initially not only killed 1% of all infected people, but quite often caused severe damage in those surviving a full-blown infection. And, of course, seriously reduced general healthcare 2-3 years ago can still have consequences today, e.g. cancer patients with delayed diagnoses, causing a rise in cancer cases now (which of course antivaxxers also try to blame on the vaccine).
And, once again, this also means that this excess mortality will be found predominantly among unvaccinated people, not vaccinated people. But none of those antivaxx nitwits make that particular comparison, oh no. They try comparing whole countries with varying degrees of vaccination uptake, ignoring the often large differences in health systems, health policies and things like the administrative systems, which in fact are used by those antivaxxers as a source of their figures. Comparing statistics from different countries can be a very complex pitfall that even real scientists sometimes have trouble handling, but that amateurs almost invariably get wrong.
And oh, the dimwits also do not even try to track down the actual causes of any observed excess mortality. They simply assume that “more dead & more vaxx => vaccines kill people!” As Edzard already said: correlation ≠ causation.
So you can spread your antivaxx crap far and wide, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s not vaccines that cause any excess mortality. There’s absolutely no evidence that there is anything wrong with vaccines in general and COVID vaccines in particular, regardless of all those highly incompetent people(*) who think that they can do health statistics and e.g. claim that COVID vaccines caused millions of deaths – all without any credible, hard evidence. As I said: yeah, sure.
*: If this person on Substack that you appear to believe has proper scientific credentials, then a) why does he insist on staying anonymous, and b) why doesn’t the rest of the scientific world accept and support his findings? The answer is of course simple: antivaxxers are a cult, a system of belief with their own ‘facts’ and their own ‘truth’ and their own ‘statistics’ and their own ‘science’, which have nothing to do with our real world.
“…There’s absolutely no evidence that there is anything wrong with vaccines in general and COVID vaccines in particular…”
1 It was created in China.
2 The Chinese avoided giving it to their population.
3 Mockingbird consistently squawks “safe and effective”.
4 The PRRA insert was patented beforehand.
5 Event 201 prepared for it.
6 Paying US hospitals $9,000 / covid “diagnosis” and $39,000 / ventilation encouraged it.
7 Politicians and MSM say, “safe and effective for pregnant women” (2 months < 9 months).
8 Pfizer tried to keep everything secret for 75 years.
9 The “cure” by “vaccine” with spike (the toxin – a vaccine should be anything but spike).
10 The stays-in-arm-only lie (LNPs go to all parts of the body including the CNS.)
11 Repeated jabbing depresses TLR cancer-protection in favor of IgG4 dominance.
12 “Get vaccinated to save Granny” was a lie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qo8Ra9NWPRY
13 Today this is being denied with “We never said it stopped transmission.” etc
14 Anyone who dares to speak out is shouted down e.g. Joe Rogan for taking IVM.
15 The DNC conspired with the FBI to coerce Facebook, as explained by Zuckerface.
16 Etc. ad infinitum.
you can stop now
we already know that you are deeply into conspiracy theories!
@Old Bob
All your points are long-debunked lies, made up by antivaxxers. Of course more people start believing those lies if they’re repeated often enough, but that doesn’t mean that they’re not lies.
So no, there is absolutely no evidence that there is anything wrong with vaccines in general and COVID vaccines in particular.
Quite the contrary, in fact: vaccinated people tend to have a lower all-cause mortality than unvaccinated people.
@Old Bob
And oh, let me give you a hint: your list is way too long to be credible to anyone with two functional brain cells.
Even if someone wouldn’t know that all your points were long debunked already, they could immediately spot it for the nonsense that it is – even the worst product on earth doesn’t have dozens of completely unrelated things wrong with it.
This reminds me of the introduction of the HPV vaccine: from the very first vaccinations, antivaxxers screamed bloody murder, and blamed the vaccine for not one but several very serious conditions, from infertility to chronic fatigue syndrome, pancreatitis and even cardiac arrest – and as time went by, this list kept on growing, as did the hyperboles used by antivaxxers (“the biggest medical scandal in the history of mankind”).
But even after 15 years, study after study found no difference in health whatsoever between vaccinated and unvaccinated girls (and by now women) – except for one condition: HPV-related cervical cancer. Even though this cancer is pretty rare in young women, it does happen, and numbers are dropping. For vaccinated women, that is. And that was of course the whole point of this vaccine.
COVID vaccines will go the same way: rabid antivaxxers like you and
RG“John” will keep coming up with an ever growing list of things that are wrong with those vaccines, not realizing that every addition to that list makes them less credible, not more. QEDAnyway, this dumb antivaxx stuff from you and
RG“John” is waaayyy off-topic, so I’ll keep it at this.“Even without a pull forward effect analysis, it is clear that Covid vaccination percentage in the overall population plays a key role in the most recent 12-month excess mortality experienced by nation, in 32 Western nations. If we add PFE to this analysis, the spread gets larger and the function becomes more linear and pronounced. Beware of agencies and analysts who try and run this data using the 2021/22 timeframe – they are employing Hope-Simpson (virus season), prior immunity (virus history), and Yule-Simpson (statistics) effects in order to mislead others.”
You parroted this one nicely. Would you do us the kindness of naming a reliable source? 😉
“…the most recent 12-month excess mortality experienced by nation…
Beware of … analysts who try and run this data using the 2021/22 timeframe – they are employing … and Yule-Simpson (statistics) effects in order to mislead others.”
Oh, the hypocrisy !
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson%27s_paradox
Australians demand answers:
https://russellbroadbent.com.au/australiansdemandanswers/
No, not Australia demands answers, but a wacky Australian MP, who babbles nonsense.
He is not alone. More than half of Americans suspect the covid vaccines caused death:
https://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_surveys/more_than_half_suspect_covid_19_vaccines_have_caused_deaths
… and almost half of Americans seem to want a complete moron as president!
No, not a moron. but a fascist. Not my words, but those from the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Mark Milley.
Yes the Kamala Harris almost-half:
https://polymarket.com/elections
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymarket
Garbage.
False dilemma.
Now is your chance, gentlemen to make a killing! Go bet on Kamala!
I do believe that >50% of the US population is sane and will vote for Kamala.
What’s the bet?
It’s currently 41% meaning a bet of $41 will return, if she wins, $100
by “what’s the bet?” I meant what are YOU betting against me?
This is your error (betting against the market):
1 You bet say $51 (in expectation of 51% from your belief)
2 Your bookie takes your money and bets $41 of it at 41% and keeps $10 back.
If you win, he gives you $100 (you make $49) paid from his $100 winnings (while keeping the £10 as profit for him, by gambling with *your* money).
Evidently if you lose, he still keeps $10.
One ignores the market at one’s own peril.
I am asking you whether you want to enter into a bet against me!
And I am pointing out that making it personal is a bad strategy (against reality i.e. the free market).
If you want to place a bet with me against the market, as above, you might “win” or lose Whereas I (following the free market) will always “win”, being disinterested.
As the fella said, “motivation is the master of reason, always, never the other way round”.
According to surveys:
73% of Americans are creationists.
34% of Americans say that the earth is regularly visited by UFOs.
Shall I proceed, Delusional Bob?