MD, PhD, FMedSci, FRSB, FRCP, FRCPEd.

Biofield tuning?

What on earth is this new SCAM?

Do I really have a ‘biofield’?

How can I tune it?

And what effect does it have?

Here is an article that explains all this in some detail; enjoy:

While western science has yet to describe and measure this energy, other cultures, especially ancient Indian or Vedic cultures describe it extensively. The term “chakra” (wheel) in Sanskirt, refers to spinning energy vortices which are seen as structures in the body’s subtle energy anatomy. Not coincidentally, within the body at each chakra location there is a corresponding large cluster of nerves or plexuses.​

One way of understanding subtle energy is through the analogy “subtle energy is to electromagnetism as water vapor is to water.”  Just as we do not measure water vapor with the same tools we use to measure water, we can’t use the same tools to measure subtle energy we would use to measure electricity.  Subtle energy is higher, finer, more diffuse and follows slightly different laws.

Another word for this energy is “bioplasma.”  Bioplasma is a diffuse magnetic fluid which surrounds all living beings. Like a fluid, it can be of varying viscosities and densities. In Biofield Tuning (also known as “sound balancing”, we see the human biofield as a bioplasmic toroid-shaped (doughnut-shaped) bubble which surrounds the body at a distance of about five feet to the sides and two-three feet at the top and bottom; bounded by a double layer plasma membrane much like the protective boundary which defines the earth’s upper atmosphere.

During a Biofield Tuning session, a client lies fully clothed on a treatment table while the practitioner activates a tuning fork and scans the body slowly beginning from a distance. The practitioner is feeling for resistance and turbulence in the client’s energy field, as well as listening for a change in the overtones and undertones of the tuning fork. When the practitioner encounters a turbulent area he/she continues to activate the tuning fork and hold it in that specific spot. Research suggests the body’s organizational energy uses the steady coherent vibrational frequency of the tuning fork to “tune” itself.  In short order, the dissonance resolves and the sense of resistance gives way. This appears to correspond to the release of tension within the body.

Practitioners work with the “Biofield Anatomy Map“, a compilation of Biofield Tuning’s founder, Eileen Day McKusick’s 20+ years of biofield observations. Areas of dissonance can be pinpointed to a specific age and type of memory. For example, one might find a strong sense of sadness at age 12 or birth trauma at the outer edge of the biofield.

Holding an activated tuning fork in the area of a traumatic memory or another difficult time period produces repeatable, predictable outcomes. The sound input seems to help the body digest and integrate unprocessed experiences.  As the biofield dissonance subsides, clients generally report feeling “lighter” and a diminishment or resolution of their symptoms.

The Sonic Slider is a custom-made weighted tuning fork that harnesses the power of therapeutic sound to help you feel and look younger and healthier.

Users report a wide range of benefits including more energy, greater well-being, weight loss, increased muscle tone, smoother skin, reduced pain, improved circulation and more.

Did I promise too much? Surely, you must agree, this is FANTASTIC!

I am so glad that someone has closely studied my instructions and followed them almost to the dot – my instructions as to HOW TO BECOME A CHARLATAN. In case you have forgotten, I repeat them here:

1. Find an attractive therapy and give it a fantastic name

Most of the really loony ideas turn out to be taken: ear candles, homeopathy, aura massage, energy healing, urine-therapy, chiropractic etc. As a true charlatan, you want your very own quackery. So you will have to think of a new concept.

Something truly ‘far out’ would be ideal, like claiming the ear is a map of the human body which allows you to treat all diseases by doing something odd on specific areas of the ear – oops, this territory is already occupied by the ear acupuncture brigade. How about postulating that you have super-natural powers which enable you to send ‘healing energy’ into patients’ bodies so that they can repair themselves? No good either: Reiki-healers might accuse you of plagiarism.

But you get the gist, I am sure, and will be able to invent something. When you do, give it a memorable name, the name can make or break your new venture.

2. Invent a fascinating history

Having identified your treatment and a fantastic name for it, you now need a good story to explain how it all came about. This task is not all that tough and might even turn out to be fun; you could think of something touching like you cured your moribund little sister at the age of 6 with your intervention, or you received the inspiration in your dreams from an old aunt who had just died, or perhaps you want to create some religious connection [have you ever visited Lourdes?]. There are no limits to your imagination; just make sure the story is gripping – one day, they might make a movie of it.

3. Add a dash of pseudo-science

Like it or not, but we live in an age where we cannot entirely exclude science from our considerations. At the very minimum, I recommend a little smattering of sciency terminology. As you don’t want to be found out, select something that only few experts understand; quantum physics, entanglement, chaos-theory and Nano-technology are all excellent options.

It might also look more convincing to hint at the notion that top scientists adore your concepts, or that whole teams from universities in distant places are working on the underlying mechanisms, or that the Nobel committee has recently been alerted etc. If at all possible, add a bit of high tech to your new invention; some shiny new apparatus with flashing lights and digital displays might be just the ticket. The apparatus can be otherwise empty – as long as it looks impressive, all is fine.

4. Do not forget a dose of ancient wisdom

With all this science – sorry, pseudo-science – you must not forget to remain firmly grounded in tradition. Your treatment ought to be based on ancient wisdom which you have rediscovered, modified and perfected. I recommend mentioning that some of the oldest cultures of the planet have already been aware of the main pillars on which your invention today proudly stands. Anything that is that old has stood the test of time which is to say, your treatment is both effective and safe.

5. Claim to have a panacea

To maximise your income, you want to have as many customers as possible. It would therefore be unwise to focus your endeavours on just one or two conditions. Commercially, it is much better to affirm in no uncertain terms that your treatment is a cure for everything, a panacea. Do not worry about the implausibility of such a claim. In the realm of quackery, it is perfectly acceptable, even common behaviour to be outlandish.

6. Deal with the ‘evidence-problem’ and the nasty sceptics

It is depressing, I know, but even the most exceptionally gifted charlatan is bound to attract doubters. Sceptics will sooner or later ask you for evidence; in fact, they are obsessed by it. But do not panic – this is by no means as threatening as it appears. The obvious solution is to provide testimonial after testimonial.

You need a website where satisfied customers report impressive stories how your treatment saved their lives. In case you do not know such customers, invent them; in the realm of quackery, there is a time-honoured tradition of writing your own testimonials. Nobody will be able to tell!

7. Demonstrate that you master the fine art of cheating with statistics

Some of the sceptics might not be impressed, and when they start criticising your ‘evidence’, you might need to go the extra mile. Providing statistics is a very good way of keeping them at bay, at least for a while. The general consensus amongst charlatans is that about 70% of their patients experience remarkable benefit from whatever placebo they throw at them. So, my advice is to do a little better and cite a case series of at least 5000 patients of whom 76.5 % showed significant improvements.

What? You don’t have such case series? Don’t be daft, be inventive!

8. Score points with Big Pharma

You must be aware who your (future) customers are (will be): they are affluent, had a decent education (evidently without much success), and are middle-aged, gullible and deeply alternative. Think of Prince Charles! Once you have empathised with this mind-set, it is obvious that you can profitably plug into the persecution complex which haunts these people.

An easy way of achieving this is to claim that Big Pharma has got wind of your innovation, is positively frightened of losing millions, and is thus doing all they can to supress it. Not only will this give you street cred with the lunatic fringe of society, it also provides a perfect explanation why your ground-breaking discovery has not been published it the top journals of medicine: the editors are all in the pocket of Big Pharma, of course.

9. Ask for money, much money

I have left the most important bit for the end; remember: your aim is to get rich! So, charge high fees, even extravagantly high ones. If your treatment is a product that you can sell (e.g. via the internet, to escape the regulators), sell it dearly; if it is a hands-on therapy, charge heavy consultation fees and claim exclusivity; if it is a teachable technique, start training other therapists at high fees and ask a franchise-cut of their future earnings.

Over-charging is your best chance of getting famous – or have you ever heard of a charlatan famous for being reasonably priced?  It will also get rid of the riff-raff you don’t want to see in your surgery. Poor people might be even ill! No, you don’t want them; you want the ‘worried rich and well’ who can afford to see a real doctor when things should go wrong. But most importantly, high fees will do a lot of good to your bank account.

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I must say, it is truly satisfying to see one’s advice taken so literally!

98 Responses to ‘Biofield tuning’: a new and fantastic SCAM

  • These instructions haven’t aged a bit, and are still as relevant as they were in 2012 for aspiring quacks. Especially love the Q&A in the original post!

  • Love it, instructions 1-9 perfectly describe allopathic medicine.

  • How do you observe (snort) something that extends 2-3 down from your body if There is a floor there? If it’s true, shouldn’t the biofield (snort) fan out at the bottom. Oh, the pesky details

    • biofielders are clearly not nitpickers

    • That probably depends on what the floor is made of (i.e. how it resonates and whether it contains anything that might disrupt an electromagnetic field).

      At 二条城 (Nijou-jou, a castle in Kyoto, former capital of Japan) there are floors made of wooden floorboards resting on metal prongs arranged in pairs that touch each other. The weight of anybody walking on the floor causes the prongs to cross over each other (rather like a plectrum picking at a guitar string) and make a noise. These 鶯張り (uguisubari or “nightingale floors”) made it impossible for a would-be assassin to sneak up on the Shogun. I expect they functioned as a weapon as well as an alarm, disrupting the tuning of the biofield of the intruder.

  • Do not knock it until you try it.

  • If you go through the training with EILEEN MCKUSICK, and STILL believe that is has no value, THEN post a comment. I have trained with her, and I can attest not only does it work in person, but this amazing therapy works at a distance AND with animals AND humans. Do you research, have the experience yourself, then comment. This is NOT a Scam. It works!!!

    • as long as you cannot show me evidence and have to rely on testimonials, it is an unproven SCAM

      • Just as Galileo had to invent new tools ( a telescope) to research new horizons that people in his time could not see or comprehend ( and likewise suffer the ignorance of naysayers) we too are in an age where we are attempting to use stone age tools fashioned in the limited Newtonian world of particulate physics to measure and observe mechanisms at play in the , as of yet, unmeasuable electro-magnetic world of waves and vibrational quantum physics.
        Just like Galileo had much trouble convincing the people of his time of the true behavior of our solar system and the relationship between the Earth, the Sun and Moon and so he had to invent the telescope to prove his observations. We too need instruments that do not exist yet to measure the energetic, vibrational field of the universe that is also mirrored in our inner innate vibrational consciousness.
        We need a consciousness telescope that hopefully will not take a 100 years to convince people to look through to be convinced like Galileo had to endure.
        Galileo could not use any of the tools available during his time to measure what he “felt” to be true and so had to invent new means to prove his assumptions so too, the new consciousness scientists need new tools to do the same.
        We can not use rocks to build a FrPB receiver and we can not use tools built out of stone age material things to measure non-material things when studying the energetic and invisible life-force we call consciousness or the human bio-=eletcrical field that exists in the non-material realm.
        It is no longer questioned in the health profession that sound, meditation, visualization, music, and hell even therapy dogs work to speed the recovery of their patient partners and that meditation and the power of positive thinking/visualization and personal conscious intent helps reduce stress and many common illnesses. But how do we go about measuring these phenomena?
        Do the tools we have available to us now afford us the ability to measure things unseen? How do we measure the co-dependent relationships that exist in the energetic sphere? How do we quantify the potential of the connections between the heart, inner spirit and consciousness of animals and human beings, and in fact the conscious connectedness of all sentient and non-sentient things in the universe?
        Quantum mechanics has shown the entanglement that exits between particles separated by many light years and the effect that simple observation has on the potential behavior of matter at the sub-atomic level but how do we go about measuring the potential or shared energy of these connections when we are using tools built to measure material events borne out of the Newtonian stone age?
        Just as in centuries past, new tools need to be developed to measure these new discoveries and we are still in the stone age in terms of measuring events that occur in the vibrational, wave behaviour consciousness energy field.
        The tried and true method of personal scientific observation and anecdotal eye witness accounts re all we really have at this moment, much like Galileo and other thought leaders off his time, to measure and record consciousness events and the power of intent and the inner, energetic body.
        Our current tools built from and for the Newtonian world are antiquated and we will need to arise out of the stone age and develop new tools of an observational nature to measure the somatic, ethereal energies that arise from our inner, higher conscious selves.
        Just like All the discoveries in the past that started as a tinge of feeling or “gut instinct” we are still in the stone age in many ways and until our intellects can catch up or rather align with and be in tune with these higher vibrational patterns we will continue to be slaves of aging, disease, fear, ignorance and suffering.
        We are in all ways like young adolescents who are just on the cusp of inner discovery and higher enlightenment. And as quantum computing and mechanics takes over in the next decade new inner discoveries along these lines of the so called quack intuitives who have known what quantum physics is discovering to be true all along will follow.
        Just as Einstein, near his death, was beginning to throw out and doubt much of his life work as he realized his colleagues Bohr and Heisenberg were throwing the baby out with the bath water as they discovered what Einstein termed “spooky action at a distance” with quantum entanglement and the horror he had at realizing that Newtonian physics hinged on the constant for dark matter that could NOT account for over 90% of the mass in our universe ( which Einstein and his contemporaries began to realize was also the missing mass in our our own higgs boson particles in our internal atomic make-up.)
        As Bohr famously explained after receiving the Noble Prize, ” If quantum mechanics hasn’t profoundly shocked you, you don’t understand it yet because ALL that we are calling real is actually made up of things that are NOT real.”
        So,as we develop new tools to measure the TRUE nature of our UN – REALITY(much like the CERN super-collider that has been responsible for peeling away so much of the veneer of the multi-parelled universe we live in) and as we inwardly sample and explore what is REALLY happening on our sub – atomic level in the “sea of all observable potentialities” (Einstein) we will raise our intellectual frequency and find whole new universes that have always been there awaiting us; full of the power of self-healing, regenerative DNA growth, inter-dimensional telepathic communication and travel ( “spooky action at a distance” as Einstein liked to call it) and awareness of our higher parallel beings light years away like Heisenberg, Tesla and Bohr predicted.
        And then , what side shall you like to be on?
        The conservative naysayers of the entrenched status quo science establishment of the past or the side of the heretical “quacks” who dared to be thought leaders and ushered humankind up a few notches on the ascension ladder?

        • what a superbly phrased concoction of fallacies, pseudoscience and BS!
          congratulations, that is no mean achievement.

          • Edzard. Not fallacies just misplaced scaffolding! Galileo did not invent the telescope rather iteratively refined it for his advanced stargazing and brought his new refinements it to their fullest expression during his time and thus invented its modern, fullest usage for our purposes.
            But no, in true scientific inquiry fashion entanglement has been extrapolated outwards and postulated to work across , even billions of light years and in a recent study at MIT proiven to most likely exist across galaxies and 7.8 billion light years in the past in their studies trying to find a loophole explanation for it in classical particle physics by measuring entanglement of light particles from across galaxies.

            http://news.mit.edu/2018/light-ancient-quasars-helps-confirm-quantum-entanglement-0820

            And Einstein, being the genius he was and foreseeing the presence of Dark Matter, was bothered by the fuzzy math and large unaccounted for chunks of photonic energy (planks constant) that propped up his and others’ classical physics models in the first half of the 20th century and “intuited” the presence of dark matter in his study of black holes and the gravitational effect on space-time of large unseen celestial forces- dark matter. Meaning, he began to think that gravity was being unseated as the major force in the unviverse -replaced by the something else that was later found to be dark matter. still a sticky point to physicists trying to unify their models of reality.
            In simple terms the. universe is 99% blank. empty dark matter space and that is also mirrored on the quanta level in the building blocks that make up our cells and the cells of things in our “perception” of physical reality. ..
            so with 99% of our reality empty space and undefined energy….
            being educated in the easy manipulation of it by intuitive, energy/medicine doctors through centuries old proven methods like Reiki, QI Gong, chakra cleansing and the newer field of neuro/bio energetics seems like the logical conclusion to the model that quantum physicists are laying out.

          • John,

            Einstein wrote several books explaining his ideas simply without resorting to too much mathematics. They are still in print. You could start by reading them. Also “Why does E=MC squared, and why does it matter? by Brian Cox and Jeff Forshaw – a little bit of maths but nothing beyond A-level.

            A recent edition of New Scientist (6th June 2020) carried a feature by Nobel Prizewinner Jeff Peebles, who came up with the ideas of dark matter and dark energy. It is a good summary of where we are so far and an interesting read.

            Of course if you want to understand General Relativity and Quantum Theory at a higher level you can’t avoid the maths, but that would be the final year of an undergraduate physics course.

            Or you can just wait until you have come down from your trip before posting.

        • John,

          I think you need to brush up on your history of science as a lot of what you are claiming is factually wrong.

          Galileo did not invent the telescope. Dark matter was postulated long after Einstein’s death. We have many tools for measuring things that cannot be seen (x-rays, gravitational waves, subatomic particles, ultrasound…). There are also many tools for detecting and measuring quantum effects. Entanglement had been demonstrated for particles several hundred kilometres apart, not light-years. The idea of observation affecting events on an atomic level and the multiple worlds idea are both ways of explaning quantum phenomena but there is no reason to suppose that they are actually true…

          Most of what you are saying makes too little sense to comment on constructively.

          • Dr. Money-Kyrie- yes of course. i misspoke.. Galileo did not invent the telescope rather iteratively refined it for his advanced stargazing and brought his new refinements it to their fullest expression during his time and thus invented its modern, fullest usage for our purposes.
            But no, in true scientific inquiry fashion entanglement has been extrapolated outwards and postulated to work across , even billions of light years and in a recent study at MIT proiven to most likely exist across galaxies and 7.8 billion light years in the past in their studies trying to find a loophole explanation for it in classical particle physics by measuring entanglement of light particles from across galaxies.

            http://news.mit.edu/2018/light-ancient-quasars-helps-confirm-quantum-entanglement-0820

            And Einstein, being the genius he was and foreseeing the presence of Dark Matter, was bothered by the fuzzy math and large unaccounted for chunks of photonic energy (planks constant) that propped up his and others’ classical physics models in the first half of the 20th century and “intuited” the presence of dark matter in his study of black holes and the gravitational effect on space-time of large unseen celestial forces- dark matter. Meaning, he began to think that gravity was being unseated as the major force in the unviverse -replaced by the something else that was later found to be dark matter. still a sticky point to physicists trying to unify their models of reality.
            In simple terms the. universe is 99% blank. empty dark matter space and that is also mirrored on the quanta level in the building blocks that make up our cells and the cells of things in our “perception” of physical reality. ..
            so with 99% of our reality empty space and undefined energy….
            being educated in the easy manipulation of it by intuitive, energy/medicine doctors through centuries old proven methods like Reiki, QI Gong, chakra cleansing and the newer field of neuro/bio energetics seems like the logical conclusion to the model that quantum physicists are laying out.

          • First of all I think we should take this post back to its original spot as we were debating the efficacy of bio energetic healing..before we got side tracked into unified field theory and bogged down in the quagmire of paradoxes involved in opening up Pandora’s box through quantum mechanics. 
            And Julian second of all I am very flattered that you think I was on some trip while writing this morning! You are so aptly proving my point so amazingly through direct observation that I could not have wished for a better segue into what I want to educate you both on now!..I don’t do drugs of any sort and drink red wine rarely only on the odd occasion.
            I was , however, on a natural high that you obviously picked up on as I spend each morning with about a 1.5 hour session of Yoga, Tai Chi and Qi Gong wrapped up with a half hour of singing bowl meditation, deep breathing and color spectrum visualizations.
            .Julian you very intuitively picked up on the effects of the concomitant dopamine and oxytocin rush through my body and suppression of cortisol and adrenaline. I was merely on a morning high of my blood being flooded with these healing enzymes, lowered blood pressure and my heart rate hovering somewhere around 54 bpm.
            Let the education of Edzard and Julian begin..
            All the above mentioned effects are 100% irrefutably proven to be medically healthy side effects of meditation, bioenergetic work, deep breathing, and auto immune function regulation through Yoga Tai Chi , sound toning and many alternative movement and bioenergetic healing exercises.      
            All requiring nothing more than the will and desire to heal and stay healthy and an extra hour or so of your morning…. no medicine.. no doctors.. no pharmaceuticals ..just pure, inward directing of the internal energy resources abundant and present in EACH OF US..   
            Natural energy internal healing mechanisms being activated and released into my bloodstream via simple bioenergetic and biochemical responses to the stimulation of the baroreceptors around my heart and lungs and the Vagus nerve. The simple act of deep breathing and visualization stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system and natural immune functions- no doctors needed.
            Vagus nerve stimulation is also done electrically at the Mayo clinic ( and other cancer clinics)  for these exact same reasons but why do it intrusively with so many deleterious side effects when it is so easy to do naturally?so.. this takes us right back to the proof of the efficacy of bioenergetic healing and the effect of sonic field vibration and working with the electromagnetic field in and around the body that you failed so very miserably to refute.
            And to aid in the furtherance of your education and to completely debunk your claims that bio energetics is a scam or quackery or a hoaxI As we shift from the status quo of looking at life in a biochemical way (and as we also switch to the new models afforded us through quantum physics/mechanics and quantum computing ) we are moving into the understanding of the electromagnetic and subtle electrical charges present in our bodies, organs and cells and how they can be manipulated and restored to their epigenetic origins of proper function. 
            This bioenergetic field of medicine is starting to supplant the biochemical view of human life, illness and the treatment of disease through manipulation of this subtle energy field all around us. EEG’s and ECG’s have been measuring this subtle bio – field of energy around our brain and heart for many years.
            (I dont even want to go down the road of the discovery of how the heart emits the MOST EMF (by around 80%) over the brain and other organs and has a completely autonomous set of self-contained neurons and how the heart sends more commands to the brain and organs than vica-verse- but that is a whole other education for you both!)
            So. to keep the focus on the proof of the existence of living beings’  subtle, etheric  somatic energy field and efficacy of bioenergetic medicine and subtle energy field treatment VERY simple and digestible for you both, I give you both  just two very simple terms with very profound implications surrounding the influence of the EMF (electromagnetic fields) around living organisms and the ability of bio energetic healers to positively effect those vibrational and electromagnetic reactions in our cells tissue and organs…

            .Squid ( Or superconducting quantum interference device)
            https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1360859297800137
            https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0953-2048/29/11/113001

            and STF ( A new branch of quantum mechanics called the Self field theory mathematically relating the EM qualities of photons, the hydrogen atom and in turn our internal biology. Namely, how protons/hydrogen atoms at our cellular level interact and create matter through excitation via acoustic, magnetic and electrical fields)

            https://www.academia.edu/34265667/Self-Field_Theory-New_Photonic_Insights

            https://d1wqtxts1xzle7.cloudfront.net/54166906/01fleming.pdf?1502989344=&response-content-disposition=inline%3B+filename%3DElectromagnetic_Self-Field_Theory_and_It.pdf&Expires=1593036184&Signature=DVq0QOHH-TTAOG7v9JjjbM9yB~AQl9rv1fMgRKQuJrQnKGSnMAaVRrNXQPcE6NBceUJ5sZ9sNQzpmBsL8R8NsQSNcQa0NwZTG2qbhuNpjvWWZV4e3hrGqgD4hpyA32d3mc8zCHWm12vkX3j1QH9B3Cpi04uDnAryLwe2RdQhWfDfpWzAAXBuUpNZ3SgoVp3A3uRdwVYdbYa2vPdQ6EiYeYoyOlu8TyBFsZG90YyjeCx-p0QdcQ1RivtBl0XNro8wJpZiY7E03FsyIZdfl9ZpiFZxMQDphzLsO5G~eM1zMlh8TsfJSjjUidtca8Vx~zYVSNjC7bSaTQS2sdggffLFHQ__&Key-Pair-Id=APKAJLOHF5GGSLRBV4ZA

            It’s all vibrational not sensational..

                And before you delete my posts because your unmerited arrogance is a telling sign of a fragile ego,  I both salute and reprimand you both for your steadfast commitment to dying scientific beliefs and the promulgation of Pavlovian pharmaceuticals (not to mention the negligence of your patients – if indeed you are practicing and are not just an armchair Rx!)

          • John,

            you very intuitively picked up on the effects of the concomitant dopamine and oxytocin rush through my body and suppression of cortisol and adrenaline. I was merely on a morning high of my blood being flooded with these healing enzymes

            Do you know that these levels changed (have you measured them) or are you making an assumption?

            They are hormones, not enzymes.

            the heart emits the MOST EMF (by around 80%) over the brain

            That is one reason why it is easier to measure an echocardiogram (ECG, or EKG in the US) than an electroencephalogram (EEG).

            Natural energy internal healing mechanisms being activated and released into my bloodstream via simple bioenergetic and biochemical responses to the stimulation of the baroreceptors around my heart and lungs and the Vagus nerve. The simple act of deep breathing and visualization stimulates the parasympathetic nervous system and natural immune functions- no doctors needed.
            Vagus nerve stimulation is also done electrically at the Mayo clinic ( and other cancer clinics) for these exact same reasons

            I think you will find that their reasons are quite different.

            Let the education of Edzard and Julian begin..

            My education began half a century ago (Jacobstowe School, Cornwall, St. Catharine’s Primary School, Bournemouth, Bournemouth Grammar School, Eton College (King’s Scholar), Trinity College Cambridge (entrance scholarship), University of London, Royal College of Physicians, Royal College of Radiologists), and while I have never stopped reading and observing, and finding connections between things everywhere I look, I find it difficult to fit much of what you are saying into any recognisable framework.

            I haven’t got time at the moment to follow your links as I am learning a Bach fugue at the moment (BWV 543) and I need to practice.

          • I haven’t got time at the moment to follow your links as I am learning a Bach fugue at the moment (BWV 543) and I need to practice.

            Julian – Now THAT is music to my ears! Johann is good for you AND our collective consciousness!
            Finally, something a scientific materialist and a metaphysical empath can agree on!
            Enjoy!
            ( FYI – A-minor is almost always my favorite go to key for film scoring/composing when I’m sketching up drafts)

          • I think Bach has something to offer everyone. You can listen to his music in so many ways – the more you analyse it the more remarkable and ingenious it is, or you can just lie back and wallow in it. Unfortunately I can’t really do him justice with my playing, but I really love this piece which doesn’t have to be played with all the stops out and has a sense of deep truth and consolation to it. He is a composer who understood the organ in a way that nobody else ever has, before or since.

          • “Planck’s” constant. Show a little respect. Einstein’s cosmological constant was a forlorn attempt to save General Relativity by saving the universe from collapse. He came to regret lambda. Prescient it was not but it proved to have great potential.

            It was you who regurgitated dated hippy scrambled eggs stuff about eastern religion and physics. How quaintly queer it is to hear all that guff again.

            As for Yoga etc you may bang on as much as you please right up to your etheric neck. “Academia.edu” is an outlet for nutters to gratify their prodigious delusions of intellectual grandeur.

            That ludicrously long link disappears into the ether. How apt.

      • have any of you naysayers ever even considered, explored/experimented with sound for healing? Have you had a biofield tuning session? I would guess not likely because if you had, you would not be name calling and making judgements based on nothing more than uninformed opinion. This comment excludes Dr JulianMoney-Kyrle as the post contained only interesting information that is clearly in support of frequency medicine which, unfortunately BIG PHARMA/AMA trained doktors get zero education in. That is why their practice of allopathic pharmaceutical poison pill medicine” cures no thing and heals no one and Frequency medicine allows the body to heal as it innately and naturally knows how to do.

      • Eileen’s elegant presentation explains in the most simple way, with a white board and a stick figure, what the biofield is and how and why tuning the biofield works to clear away in minutes, what years of conventional therapies for mental, emotional and physical health could not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34gcvxtuFGk

      • Why is it a scam? Did you try it? The us military studied it for over 40 yrs…eastern medicine used it 4 times as long as “proven” medicine… isn’t that same proven medicine the same that comes with a slew of side effects and then a law suit down the line… science fiction just isn’t science fact because we haven’t learned the how… this doesn’t change the truth… you can’t get wet by the word water… call it Biofield, call it god , call it the universe science HAS PROVEN ITS EXISTENCE.

        I’ll give you 1 source, be a true skeptic and find more on your own… it’s a dot gov site directly from the US GOVT

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4654779/

        • did you try it?
          THE QUESTION ASKED BY MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE UNDERSTOOD NOTHING

          • Edward- One does not need to understand LOVE (for another human, a 4 legged friend or an expanse of magical nature) to know it works. Though many have tried to explain and understand it – Love works. Period. Have you tried it lately? If so, then you may yet one day understand what is not yet easily explained or observed with our stone age materialist tools.

          • NOT BRIGHT ENOUGH EVEN TO SPELL MY NAME CORRECTLY?

        • You don’t really have a clue what you linked to, do you Rob?

        • Rob,

          I’ll give you 1 source, be a true skeptic and find more on your own… it’s a dot gov site directly from the US GOVT

          No it isn’t.

          Your link is to an INDEXING service, which is hosted by the National Institutes of Health and ultmately by the US Government, but that does not mean that they are responsible for the paper that you reference nor that they endorse it in any way.

          I started to read it but gave up after the first two pages. It is abject nonsense; the authors appear to be arguing that quantum effects scaled up to the macroscopic level are important in biology and that the biofield is something explicable in those terms. However, I get the impression that they do not understand either quantum theory or biology terribly well.

        • Deepak Chopra? Oh please, Rob.

          I suggest you look up “Quantum Flapdoodle”. The wikipedia entry relevant to it has a special mention for Chopra. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_mysticism

    • I am afraid that I will have to comment without trying it for myself as I have cancer, and Ms McKusick’s Web site clearly states that cancer is a contraindication:

      “The reason for this is that Biofield Tuning moves stagnation in the body, resulting in a detox response in up to 50% of those who experience it. This detox can surface as extreme exhaustion, waves of emotion, or other detox symptoms such as body aches, mucus, rashes, etc.”

      I was interested to see that another complication is the presence of a pacemaker:

      “Biofield Tuning effects the electric rhythms in and around the body and therefore can interfere with the performance of some electric medical devices such as pacemakers.”

      This seems to contradict part of the explanation given as to what the biofield is:

      “One way of understanding subtle energy is through the analogy “subtle energy is to electromagnetism as water vapor is to water.” Just as we do not measure water vapor with the same tools we use to measure water, we can’t use the same tools to measure subtle energy we would use to measure electricity. Subtle energy is higher, finer, more diffuse and follows slightly different laws.”

      A pacemaker is an electronic device designed to sense the heartbeat from the electrical activity of the heart muscle and to deliver an electric shock whenever it senses that an essential component of the heartbeat is missing. It has a battery. It has wires going into the heart, which means that magnetic fields can generate currents in those wires (as they do in any conductor) and it can also be programmed magnetically; most pacemakers are also designed so that if you place a strong magnet over the chest it will switch them to “safe” mode where they stop sensing the heart’s activity and simply pace at 70 beats per minute (this is useful to know if you find somebody who is unconscious due to a pacemaker malfunction as you can revive them with a magnet).

      If what you are doing can affect pacemakers then it should be very easy to detect using straightforward electromagnetic sensors (which in effect the pacemaker itself it, in a sense).

      I wonder if you could explain that contraindication to me? I would also be very interested to know about any documented cases of a pacemaker being affected by biofield tuning.

  • Who ever wrote this article ,please excuse me if I offend. First of all ,unless you physically experience any type of situation yourself that want to publish or put on the internet ,your words have no ground to hold on to and makes you sound really ignorant and primitive. I bet you believe in all the main stream science theory’s as if it were solid evidence . We live in a electric universe and everything is electric . Eileen’s evidence is in the thousands of people that she has helped and all her students she has taught that are helping more . That kind of positive energy is what this world needs more of ,and i want to thank Eileen for this. Your negative words unfortunately spreads negative energy which becomes stagnant to our spirits evolution . To Eileen; Your passion and positive energy makes you the most beautiful person on this planet , It would be a dream come true for myself to be in the presence of your energy .

  • I am a sceptic, however an interested sceptic, so I am going to try it next week. I work hard and if I choose to spend/waste my money in this way then that’s up to me. I like massage, I like Reiki, they leave me in a positive state, who cares if it’s placebo or actual healing. I don’t believe in any wild claims for any of this stuff and that should not be legal without proof. I would rather give my dosh to a practitioner rather than big pharma with their wild claims, now that’s a scam if ever there was one!

    • please list a few of what you consider ‘wild claims’ from ‘big pharma’.

        • RG,

          I followed your link and read the article. They make the very good point that reporting relative risk rather than absolute risk can be very misleading. They give the example of a hypothetical drug to prevent death from heart disease which reduces the risk from 1 in 1,000 to 1 in 2,000. If you call this a 50% reduction in the risk of death, then people might think that it was worthwhile. On the other hand if you frame it that 2,000 people have to take the drug for one of them to benefit, then a lot of people might not bother.

          What they don’t point out is that if you treat, say, 100 million people then that is 50,000 lives saved. So a body responsible for public health may well make recommendations that differ from what an individual might choose.

          As an oncologist I have often had to talk people through the decision whether or not to have adjuvant chemotherapy. For instance, most people with muscle-invasive bladder cancer are cured by surgery alone, but some of them aren’t, and if you give chemotherapy then there is an absolute risk reduction of about 8%. This means that for every 12 patients treated, most don’t need the chemo because they will be cured anyway, some will die regardless, but for that one person in 12 the chemo makes a life-or-death difference. Clearly if I treat everybody then I know that I am saving some lives, but I don’t know who they will be, and given the toxicity of chemotherapy it is not so obvious that it is the right decision for an individual.

          Later in the article they talk about palliative oncology treatment (this is where the intent is to improve quality of life and if possible prolong survival). They give the example of nivolumab (Optivo) which is a monoclonal antibody of the type known as immunotherapy (technically it is a checkpoint inhibitor), which was compared to docetaxel (Taxotere) in a randomised trial, though they don’t say what kind of cancer it was being used for. Apparently Bristol-Myers-Squibb launched a direct-to-consumer advertising campaign saying that Optivo reduced the risk of dying by 41%, whereas in fact the survival benefit in comparison to docetaxel was only 3.2 months. They also made the point that serious adverse reactions occurred in 46% of patients. Finally they quote another trial that found that Optivo does not show any survival benefit in lung cancer in comparison to platinum-based chemotherapy, which is all very well, but docetaxel is not platinum-based chemotherapy so not relevant here.

          When it comes to oncology it is quite clear that the authors of this article really have no idea what they are talking about.

          I don’t know what they mean by a 41% reduction in the risk of dying in this context because they haven’t specified what point they are referring to – is it 6 months after treatment? one year? five years? On the other hand, reporting a 3.2 month survival improvement is equally misleading, since what happens in practice is that some people don’t respond at all, and others respond very well, and for those responders the survival benefit is much greater. Just taking an average figure doesn’t give you the full picture. It is much better to use a Kaplan-Maier survival curve, which is the standard way of reporting results in cancer trials, but they require a certain amount of training to understand.

          I should add that a “serious adverse event” is very often a change in a blood test, and not necessarily something that will impact quality of life. Also the 3.2 month survival benefit would have included those who didn’t finish the course.

          I should also add that the current gold standard treatment for metastatic lung cancer is to use a combination of a checkpoint inhibitor, platinum-based chemotherapy and another chemotherapy drug called pemetrexed, and this can give a very substantial improvement in both survival and quality of life.

          The main problem is that in the US pharmaceutical companies’ legal responsibility is to their shareholders, not their customers, they are insufficiently regulated, and worst of all, they are allowed to advertise to the public. Particularly when it comes to cancer treatment, advertising to patients, who really don’t have the background and context to understand how one treatment differs from another, or indeed what they can and can’t achieve, creates a demand and probably ends up with people getting sub-optimal treatment (e.g. with the wrong drug).

          So the take-home message here is that allowing pharmaceutical companies to advertise to the public is a very bad idea, and is one of the many ways that health care is broken in the US.

          • I find Eileen Day McKusick’s work to be of high integrity. I have taken to perform the biofield tuning work myself even though I suffer from tinnitus (It helps to be able to hear irregularities in the sound of the tuning fork). I find that the patients can often tell me when I have found a place in their biofield that lets them feel the vibrations. That if I treat those places I can erase this sensitivity they have in the corresponding location. And that this has benefits to the patients.
            I find it immensely gratifying to treat people and erase symptoms from problems such as PTSD, Pain from Endometriosis, Irregular Adrenal Response, inflammatory issues, physical, emotional and mental trauma and more…

            It hurts to see something I know to be so useful to others to be called a “SCAM”. But I know that some people like to stir the pot just to make themselves seem more important. Well you are important Edzard Ernst. You have infinite value. As Mr. Rogers would say – you’re precious – just the way you are. And in my heart I forgive you for defaming this practice and offending my feelings about this practice whether you want to be forgiven or not.

            If you would like to experience it I can perform biofield tuning over the telephone or over the phone on a patient who agrees to be treated in this way.

            Oh, by the way check out how Fenbendazole is being found useful in the fight against cancer. It’s found in dog dewormers. You won’t get a fancy “phd” title to add to your credentials for studying this. People might call you a “quack” – but you’ll save people’s lives and for that you’ll earn gratitude.

            As to your claim about charging people money. I often do this work for free at a conference in Acapulco I attend. It’s my project RemedyCoin that sponsors my efforts. I think you would be interested in my ideas about giving away medical care in exchange for “forgiveness contracts” that express gratitude amounts with a built in interest rate. Money minted by the practitioner and patient together. I think I’ll build a coin called Remedy.Health where these contracts will commute their value to. The new money will need to commemorate something good for humanity. Recognizing the value of sacrifice toward the needs of others in the new money we might use.

          • “in my heart I forgive you for defaming this practice”
            you are just too generous for words – however, I do not ‘defame’, I criticise the lack of evidence.
            PLEASE SHOW ME SOME EVIDENCE.

          • And in my heart I forgive you for defaming this practice and offending my feelings about this practice whether you want to be forgiven or not

            I think you need to look up the legal definition of defamation.

            In any case, the purpose of this blog is neither to offend nor to spare anybody’s feelings. If you take offence at being asked to provide evidence to support your claims then you have a very strange notion of how academic discussions normally proceed. And if you come up with nonsensical notions you shouldn’t be surprised when people don’t believe you.

          • I find Eileen Day McKusick’s work to be of high integrity. I have taken to perform the biofield tuning work myself even though I suffer from tinnitus (It helps to be able to hear irregularities in the sound of the tuning fork). I find that the patients can often tell me when I have found a place in their biofield that lets them feel the vibrations. That if I treat those places I can erase this sensitivity they have in the corresponding location. And that this has benefits to the patients.
            I find it immensely gratifying to treat people and erase symptoms from problems such as PTSD, Pain from Endometriosis, Irregular Adrenal Response, inflammatory issues, physical, emotional and mental trauma and more…

            I’m saving this as a classic example of the self-delusional twaddle spouted by SCAM merchants.

            As Feynman said: “The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool”

            Joseph would do well to heed these words.

  • Dr. JMK

    Doc, I appreciate your analysis… as always.

    I won’t make any attempt to argue the statistics. Statistics can be twisted around to prove almost anything.
    The bottom line is that Big Pharma, and in many cases SBM over-promises and under-delivers.

    Yes, there truly are many pitfalls of the US healthcare system. In my view, the biggest reason that the system fails is because it it not a true free market system…. not even close. Simi-capitalism just doesn’t work well.

    • Statistics can be twisted around to prove almost anything

      This is something that people say when they mean that numbers aren’t important because they don’t understand them.

      Though maybe you are using the word “statistics” in a different way from me. Statistics is a branch of mathematics which concerns the behaviour of random numbers, and provides powerful tools for analysing data in order to separate what is random from what is not.

      The word is used in a much looser sense by to refer to numerical data of all kinds, and of course people can lie about numbers just as they can lie about anything else. Unfortunately mathematical education isn’t very good to the point where many people are numerically illiterate, and it is easy to be fooled if you don’t understand the way numbers behave. It doesn’t help that our intuitions in this area are very misleading if not outright wrong.

  • As a medical doctor, how do you explain TMS, currently used in Psychiatry & approved as a method to heal depression & anxiety in most major hospitals.
    Also, your views on the difference between TMS & Biofield Tuning??
    https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/transcranial-magnetic-stimulation/about/pac-20384625

    • As a medical doctor, how do you explain TMS, currently used in Psychiatry & approved as a method to heal depression & anxiety in most major hospitals.

      I’m afraid I am an oncologist, and this is completely outside my area of expertise.

      Also, your views on the difference between TMS & Biofield Tuning

      TMS is a way of inducing electric currents within the brain. Any fluctuating magnetic field will produce an electric current in a conductor (this is called inductance, and is the principle behind transformers and radio antennae, among other things). Electric currents can be used to stimulate nerves, and one way of doing this is to implant electrodes into the body. A less invasive (though not very precise) method is to generate a magnetic field which is strong enough to induce electric currents in part of the brain, and so stimulate a group of nerves. I know that this is used in brain research, and until I read your post I wasn’t aware that it was now used by psychiatrists. It has been approved by NICE in the UK (who are notoriously hard to convince, though their main remit is cost-effectiveness) so presumably there are data showing that it is safe and also that there is a benefit in depression.

      Biofield tuning is completely different. It is based on the postulated existence of an energy field associated with living things which nobody can detect except for the therapists themselves, who use a simple tuning fork. They claim that life experiences can damage this field, that this is the main cause of illness, and that they can repair the field (and so cure illness) by waving the tuning fork around. There is no evidence that this is true, and in fact it goes against much of what we know about physics and biology.

      So TMS is at least supported by some evidence, though the results of a quick Google search suggest that there are people trying to spin it into a moneymaker. Biofield tuning is simply a con.

      • Read the following..then read again your reply above.

        “Medicine is in transition. Conventional biomedicine is giving way to an expanded, integrative medical model that emphasizes healthcare as well as illness care, treats people not just diseases, and incorporates multiple therapeutic approaches, old and new, to offer patients greater choice”

        https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4654789/

        • OK, I’ve followed your link and read the paper by Rubik et al. It mixes established science with religious history and New Age claptrap without distinguishing between them or providing any convincing evidence. The links to some of the references are dead-ends (I’m not going to the trouble of having a library chase up print-only journals) and others are exploratory studies. Yet others reference out-of-date ideas about embryonic development.

          I am afraid it will take more than a wishful belief in magic to overturn the findings of rigorous research.

          If you want to know about electricity, magenetism and biology you could enrol in a biophysics course. You could start by reading about the seminal work of Alan Hodgkin (head of my college when I was an undergraduate) and Andrew Huxley in the 1930’s on the nature of the nerve impulse, for which they won a Nobel Prize in 1963. Once you understand how they used microelectrodes and voltage clamps to measure the flow of sodium and potassium ions across cell membranes, and following on from that the discovery of resting and action potentials, voltage-triggered ion channels, glucose-powered ion pumps etc. perhaps you will realise that physiology is more complicated than simply waving a tuning fork around, and in the process you may get some insight into the true beauty of life.

          Your original question in any case was on how TMS differs from biofield tuning, and I think I gave you a satisfactory answer in the first place, even if you didn’t like it.

  • Ahh mainstream thought… such brain washing… there is more to life than we’ve been told my friends. Just consider the miracle our body is! How it functions… all the parts, and you think that we cannot be affected by energy such as sound therapy? Wow… minds need to be opened. “They” have brain washed us folks. Expand your mind, and realize that “science” cannot prove everything. This doesn’t make something illegitimate. Period.

    • it seems to me that, with all your openness of mind, your brain might have fallen out.

    • you think that we cannot be affected by energy such as sound therapy?

      Well, I have just listened to a Mozart piano concerto on the radio, and I have to say that I feel better for it.

    • I’m off to her “school” in May. I’ve been a student of the esoteric arts for over thirty years. This seems to me to cover: the human aura,chakras,assemblage points, meridians,emotional code clearing, string theory, Tesla, ether,plasma,a shamans drum etc. If these forks can be used to detect the effects of physical/ and emotional issues (current or past) and be used to positively effect people, I’m in. Luminous vibrating energy beings trying to be in harmony with the universe

  • Some studies show promising response to certain sound frequencies. Some beleive this is especially true when produced by the patient via singing and humming.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6130417/

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4325896/

  • As a biologist I can tell you the majority of work is focused on a molecular view of life. The biological role of light, sound and electric charge in the body has been ignored and will form the basis of our future understanding of biology. Dismissing pioneers as “pseudosience” is hubris.

    • I like the way you call yourself a ‘critical thinker’!

    • @”Critical Thinker”

      Biologist??

      I don’t know what biology you have studied or where, but from your short communication, it almost seems like you may have missed about a centuries worth, or so, of research and accumulated biological and physical knowledge?

      The roles of light, sound and electric charge in most biosystems are very well known and documented, among them the human physiology. If you know of or have made personal discoveries in addition to established and proven knowledge in these fields, I highly recommend presenting such findings here.

  • I have not been trained in BT nor have I experienced a treatment. I do however have an open mind. I am a practicing RN in an acute setting and western medicine is not the be all and end all. Frankly, Dr., you sound arrogant. Chemo is given to stage 3 and 4 cancer patients and it isn’t going to cure them but it does make a lot of money for oncologists now, doesn’t it? How is that any less a scam; preying on people who are frightened and desperate. All the degrees in the world do not make you any more an authority on such matters as those who claim it works. Remember, the world is not flat!

    • be careful: if your mind is too open, your brain might fall out.

    • Chemo is given to stage 3 and 4 cancer patients and it isn’t going to cure them but it does make a lot of money for oncologists now, doesn’t it?

      I suggest you talk to some of your colleagues in your local oncology department who will be able to put you right.

      Chemotherapy is used in several situations:
      1. Adjuvant – the tumour has a reasonably good chance of being cured by the primary treatment (usually surgery or radiotherapy) and chemotherapy increases the probability of long-term cure (or reduces the risk of it coming back, which is the same thing). Examples include breast cancer, colorectal cancer and urothelial tumours.

      2. Neoadjuvant – the chemotherapy is given prior to surgery to improve the chance of success, or to make an inoperable tumour operable. Examples include inflammatory breast cancer and muscle-invasive bladder cancer.

      3. Primary – Here chemotherapy is the main treatment modality and is curative on its own. Examples include metastatic testicular cancer (chemotherapy alone almost always results in long-term cure) and haematological malignancies such as acute leukaemias and high-grade lymphoma.

      4. Palliative. Here it is accepted that the disease is incurable, and chemotherapy is one of the treatments used to improve the situation, e.g. by prolonging life or by easing or preventing distressing symptoms. Here the toxicity of treatment needs to be carefully weighed against the benefits and it is essential that the treating team and the patient work together to reach an informed decision. It is also essential that the treatment is stopped if it doesn’t appear to be working or if the toxicity is excessive.

      I live in the UK where most chemotherapy is given by the National Health System, where oncologists are paid a fixed salary and not according to how much treatment they give. Indeed, we are well aware of the limited resources available to treat our patients and we are discouraged from spending money unnecessarily.

      I should add that I have had to stop working myself roughly three years ago when I developed an incurable malignancy, and without palliative treatment I would be long dead.

      Frankly, Dr., you sound arrogant.

      I generally confine my comments to areas where I have expertise, training and experience. Where something is simply my opinion I make this clear. Perhaps this makes me sound arrogant to people who have no idea what they are talking about, but my intention is to educate and inform, and to correct dangerous misinformation. In any serious discussion of academic matters it is expected that the participants pay careful attention to what the others are saying and challenge anything that is inconsistent or can’t be supported by evidence.

  • Brain-washed allopathic idiots. I am sorry you will never experience the truth because you are unteachable on purpose. The elite keep this for themselves. Please get an original thought.

  • something tells me that you wouldn’t read the very many studies even if they came across your desk because they’ll throw your very small-minded world views into a tailspin, and you’d just find reasons to discredit them too, instead of admitting that you know very little about the world of bioenergetics.

    You can’t say the right thing to the wrong person… but there is research out there, should you care to dive into it. I don’t have the patience to try and open your mind. Good luck with that.

  • Have you ever received a Biofield Tuning?
    It seems like something you should experience, once, before you tear it apart. I don’t get how someone can be so bitterly against something they haven’t tried. You sound fearful.
    Conventional medicine can do amazing things, but it’s biggest flaw is that it thinks it is the best and only way. There are many modalities that bring people comfort and assist their bodies with healing. I don’t get it, you would think a well educated person, such as yourself, would have room for considering any tool that could, non invasively, help your patients and support your commitment to keeping your patients healthy.

    • Renee,

      I don’t get how someone can be so bitterly against something they haven’t tried. You sound fearful

      It’s funny how many people are against chemotherapy without having tried it. Mind you, there is a lot of evidence that chemotherapy works. I have yet to see any evidence in favour of biofield tuning.

      • .Your definition of Evidence bothers me. Simply ignoring peoples own testimony is rude, inhumane, and is setting up mankind for extinction.

        I knocked my head against the wall trying to get “decision makers” to examine how ozone therapy was useful to ease and eradicate symptoms of the thing they call Covid-19.

        Still they cannot show me evidence that it is a communicable disease.

        • Joseph Baker,

          Simply ignoring peoples own testimony is rude

          If you are unused to academic discourse you may find people’s directness, and the requirement to justify any assertions that you make, are apparently rude. However, that is how it works. The purpose is to arrive at the truth, not to avoid hurting people’s feelings. If you think a scientific discussion is rude, you should try being cross-examined by a barrister in a Court of Law.

          The testimony of an individual has been shown time and time again to be unreliable. They may have misinterpreted their experience, or misremembered it, or be lying. A testimony may be usedful as the starting point of an investigation but to accept it as evidence is likely to lead you up the garden path.

          Your definition of Evidence bothers me.

          Why are you bothered by the requirement for evidence to be objective and repeatable? Anything else is surely hearsay.

          I knocked my head against the wall trying to get “decision makers” to examine how ozone therapy was useful to ease and eradicate symptoms of the thing they call Covid-19.

          Then you were taling to the wrong people. It is not the role of decision makes to examine therapies – this is the job of medical scientists, who are trained in how to examine them properly before reporting their findings to the decision makers.

          Ozone is useful as a disinfecting agent as it kills microbes, including viruses. However, it is also hazardous to health, and it would be reckless to administer it to sick patients except in the context of a properly designed and controlled clinical trial. Do you know the outcome of of any such trials that have been conducted? If not, then on what basis are you recommending it?

          Still they cannot show me evidence that it is a communicable disease.

          The epidemiology (i.e. who gets it) shows very clearly that Covid-19 is a communicable disease. You don’t need to know anything about viruses, for instance, to establish that this is the case. We knew, for instance, that AIDS was a communicable disease and how it was spread long before the HTLV-3 virus (now known as HIV) was discovered.

          What evidence would convince you? Perhaps a statistics course?

      • Im sad for you that you are so arrogant in your beliefs and so hostile in your need to be right.. I am evidence that Biofield Tuning is extremely beneficial. But like chemo, or medication, it might not be the correct choice for everyone and that is okay. I was extremely sick for 5 years. After a case of pneumonia, Conventional docs said I had rheumatoid arthritis, and anxiety and depression and CFS. They put me on steroids, pain killers and antidepressants- And gave me plenty of psych referrals. I got progressively worse and herniated C5 through C8 just turning over in bed on my sleep. The emergency room refused to give me xrays, or help, convinced I was a med seeker. (Sadly it was the hospital I worked for) My docs pushed for cervical fusion and gave me more opioids and gabapentin. I developed horrifically painful capsulitis in both shoulders and debilitating, painful, stiffness in both hips and my thumbs. I went from working as a healthcare practitioner to living sub functionally, unable to work, care for my child or pay my mortgage. I finally sought out an Integrative Medicine doc (an MD trained in prestigious medical facilities on both the east and west coast) who practiced outside of third party payers so he could actually treat as needed not as dictated by insurance. He gradually got me off all the meds, among other things, he identified alarmingly high viral levels (via standardized testing, Quest labs- (which none of my previous docs had offered / thought/ been allowed (?)to do) , and significant nutritional deficiencies in my body. After 3 months under his care I began to see steady improvement that continued for a year and a half. I began working again part time, but still struggled with a milder malingering form of the joint pain and stiffness, anxiety, exhaustion etc. I tried many alternatives. Biomagnetics, acupuncture, CBT, RET, acupressure, talk therapy, psychotherapy (they dx’s with PTSD and offered me more meds lol) it wasn’t until I tried Biofield tuning that I was able to heal the rest of the way. I felt a positive change after my first 90 minute session. It was intense and surprising (I went in very much a skeptic) I’m back at work (although I left conventional medicine) I can sit on the floor and play with my kid again, I can pay my mortgage. My integrative medicine doc is now very excited about the benefits of Biofield tuning for some of his patients.
        So I don’t need a study to tell me Biofield Tuning is beneficial. Sometimes you just have to try somethings (Although a previous comment mentioned there are studies out there . You could, just for fun, read about nitric oxide and healing as it pertains to sound healing and tuning forks. John Beaulieu has spent years studying the effects of sound on the body using anechoic chambers. – might be something that’s interests you… or not. )
        I won’t be checking back for your response. You have, frankly, sucked up enough of my time. I appreciate critical thinking and healthy skepticism but your need to be belittling and right doesn’t interest me. Light and love to you. Be well.

        • Anecdotes are no evidence.

          A wall of text is not convincing.

          John Beaulieu is a pseudoscientic shaman.

          • @RPGNo1

            Are you making some claim that what Rener attested to didn’t happen ?

          • RG,

            I doubt very much that it happened the way that she describes it.

          • @Dr. JMK

            OK… doc
            Just remember, you too can be accused of being a liar. Anybody can throw those accusations around, but mostly those that have a motivation hurl such poison. I doubt Rener has a motivation to lie here. He/She vanished as fast as arrived.
            I could easily doubt your recovery…. but I would never suggest that it did not occur as you testified.

          • RG,

            Just remember, you too can be accused of being a liar. Anybody can throw those accusations around, but mostly those that have a motivation hurl such poison. I doubt Rener has a motivation to lie here. He/She vanished as fast as arrived.

            I am not accusing Rener of lying. But there are elements that seem implausible except perhaps within his / her belief system, and some which suggest that he / she has been lied to by charlatans.

            In my experience many people believe things that aren’t true. That doesn’t make them liars.

  • @RG

    Oh no, it happened to Rener. But it had nothing to do with biofields or any other pseudomedical treatment.

    Spontaneous healings have long been known in medicine. And it is also known that a positive psyche or attitude to life can alleviate many problems.

    • @RPGNo1

      Then you misunderstood his testimony.

      You glossed over the fact that Rener is a healthcare practitioner, that means he is well familiar with evidence based medicine science and protocols. You also glossed over the fact that for five years he sought out, and complied with all the demands and therapies of his EBM practitioners…. only to leave him in WORSE condition and unable to work.
      Truthfully, five years is more than adequate attempts. How much worse condition is a patient expected to tolerate before seeking out another alternative ? … please do tell.

      Rener had 5 years to experience a “spontaneous healing”. The odds that it would only occur within 90 minutes of him receiving treatment of another type would be very very low…. sir.

      I have one question for you, does spontaneous healing only occur after being treated with CAM ?

      • Survivorship bias or survival bias is the logical error of concentrating on the people or things that made it past some selection process and overlooking those that did not, typically because of their lack of visibility. This can lead to false conclusions in several different ways. It is a form of selection bias.

        Survivorship bias can lead to overly optimistic beliefs because failures are ignored, such as when companies that no longer exist are excluded from analyses of financial performance. It can also lead to the false belief that the successes in a group have some special property, rather than just coincidence …”
        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivorship_bias

        • @Pete Attkins

          Yes, I followed the link to survivorship bias, this is equivalent to correlation equals causation arguments…. no ? If not, something close.

          I again argue that Rener sought out EBM solutions for FIVE years, with no benefit, in fact progressed for the worse. What idiot would not seek out another path ? hmmm
          The odds that beneficial response would come almost immediately after beginning the new therapy, and continue for many months would be difficult to explain away as chance.

          • RG,

            The odds that beneficial response would come almost immediately after beginning the new therapy, and continue for many months would be difficult to explain away as chance.

            Not so.

            Take the analogous situation of a lottery, where the odds are easy to calculate. In the UK National Lottery, for instance, the chance of an individual ticket winning the jackpot is about 1 in 14 million. However, the chances of SOMEBODY winning the jackpot is closer to 1 in 2 (if nobody wins, then the prize is carried forward to the next week). You can’t really argue, however, that a jackpot win is not due to chance.

            Since we have no idea how many people with chronic problems have biofield tuning without an immediate response, we have no way of calculating in advance what the chance of this happening is in an individual case, or indeed happening at all. However, even if we could, these are the wrong questions. What we actually want to know is what is the chance that biofield tuning was responsible for the outcome in this case, rather than a different explanation, and more generally, what is the probability that biofield tuning is an effective treatment for chronic conditions.

            We can look at a jackpot winner and say with 100% certainty that the increase in their fortunes was due to their choice of numbers on the ticket. We can also say with certainty that lotteries are a very bad way of trying to get rich, since on average each player loses more than they win.

            Indeed, there are sufficient lotteries worldwide that it is almost inevitable that somebody somewhere will win a jackpot twice. However, whenever this has happened it has always raised accusations of fraud from people who don’t understand probability.

  • @Dr. JMK

    Doc…. I don’t give a damn about your science based trials, they mean very little.

    First of all, many of them are designed to obtain a specific study group, patients that are more likely to meet the endpoints. Beyond that, the studies in some cases are open to interpretation, and data categorized in ways to show maximum benefit. Did I mention that sometimes safety data is not revealed ? … oh, well I’m sure I have mentioned that in other threads.

    So, a study was able to prove that 55% of the study group met the endpoints … doc, why not one hundred percent ? You already gave me the answer not long ago…. because not everybody responds the same to ANY therapy ! So if a given synthetic drug is given approval, it doesn’t mean that it will benefit all patients. Therefore, studies that fall short of being able to benefit all patients do not mean the therapy is not valid at all, it means the therapy is beneficial for a smaller number of patients than the powers that be require to give it the stamp of approval. This magic stamp of approval apparently mean to and you your EBM cohort that it is SCIENCE and therefore it must be revered and accepted. And if any given therapy does not acquire that magic stamp of approval from the powers that be, the therapy is completely invalid. HOGWASH !

    So going back to your lottery example…. that is complete BS. You can leave such mathematics at the casino.
    Rener, did not experience a placebo effect, because 18 months later the therapy is still giving the benefit.

    Yes, I know Doc, you are contending that Rener experienced a spontaneous healing.
    I will ask you the same question that I received no reply from RPGNo1.
    Does spontaneous healing only occur after patients are treated with CAM ? We know it occurs. We know that MD’s attribute spontaneous healing phenom when they can’t explain why a patient recovered, by why is I never ever never ever hear MD’s assume that a patient experienced a spontaneous healing after treating them. Do MD’s just always assume that their magic powers and magic pills were effective ? …. lol…. You would think they would know better. I think you know what I’m talking about.

    BTW Doc
    I wasn’t aware you are also experiencing heart issues.
    You better stay far from the Wuhan Virus.

  • RG,

    Doc…. I don’t give a damn about your science based trials, they mean very little.

    However little they may mean, they are our best route to the facts.

    First of all, many of them are designed to obtain a specific study group, patients that are more likely to meet the endpoints. Beyond that, the studies in some cases are open to interpretation, and data categorized in ways to show maximum benefit. Did I mention that sometimes safety data is not revealed ?

    These don’t sound like the trials that I have been involved in. Though I agree with you that there are a lot of bad trials, and a lot of trials where the statistical analysis leaves a lot to be desired.

    So, a study was able to prove that 55% of the study group met the endpoints … doc, why not one hundred percent ? You already gave me the answer not long ago…. because not everybody responds the same to ANY therapy

    It is true that biological systems (including humans) are complicated and highly variable in their response. You have only to consider how different people resonse to alcohol to realise this. However, usually the reason not all subjects in a study reach the endpoint is mathematical, not biological. For instance, if the endpoint is survival, then usually the trial is analysed after the median survival is reached (i.e. half of the subjects have reached the endpoint). If you waited for 100% it could be decades longer.

    So going back to your lottery example…. that is complete BS. You can leave such mathematics at the casino.

    The branch of mathematics dealing with probability was originally developed in relation to gambling, but it is applicable to any situation where there are random influences. This is very much the case when it comes to the behaviour of disease, and indeed many more areas of life than most people are aware of.

    Rener, did not experience a placebo effect, because 18 months later the therapy is still giving the benefit.

    I never suggested that it was a placebo effect.

    Yes, I know Doc, you are contending that Rener experienced a spontaneous healing.
    I will ask you the same question that I received no reply from RPGNo1.
    Does spontaneous healing only occur after patients are treated with CAM ? We know it occurs. We know that MD’s attribute spontaneous healing phenom when they can’t explain why a patient recovered, by why is I never ever never ever hear MD’s assume that a patient experienced a spontaneous healing after treating them. Do MD’s just always assume that their magic powers and magic pills were effective ?

    In answer to your question, I would say generally not.

    Doctors are very much aware that most conditions are self-limiting and will resolve given enough time. Much of what they do is to try to work out which ones won’t, and when a patient’s symptoms might indicate something more serious. Usually this means investigating and treating a lot of people who don’t need it for the sake of those that do.

    I wasn’t aware you are also experiencing heart issues.
    You better stay far from the Wuhan Virus.

    Thank-you for your concerns. I have been keeping myself as isolated as possible since March as I have multiple myeloma, which is a much bigger risk factor for a poor outcome with Covid-19 than coronary heart disease, at least according to my haematologist, who has lost a number of patients to this infection. It is very frustrating as my wife and I love to travel, and we also want to see our grandchildren in New Zealand. Luckily we live in the country, where we can get out of the house, walk the dog and watch the wildlife without encountering anybody else.

    • lol, I appreciate you honesty.

      Your existence sound like many of us. I’m up for traveling, but not so much my wife. I’ll only remain cooped up for so long…. then I’m outta here, rona virus or not.

      Say doc, not to be an A-hole, but I was under the impression you were cured of MM. So what are you indicating by stating you have MM ? …. it’s in remission… correct ? Are you still receiving treatments ?

      • Unfortunately there are no cures for multiple myeloma. After failing to response to the first three lines of treatment (including chemotherapy), I am now on daratumumab infusions every month combined with pomalidomide. This has kept me stable for the last three years, and I feel a lot better than I did in 2017, but I still have extensive involvement of my bone marrow and significant immunosuppression.

        • @DR. JMK

          Sorry to hear doc, but I guess the good news is that you are stable… and alive.

          Keep up the prescribed therapy, it sounds like it’s beneficial for you.

          I don’t agree with you much, but I like you all the same. You’re a helluva kind man.

  • Duh! Who needs fancy tuning, remedies or supplements, when removing your loafers is all you’ll ever need?! 😂

    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28987038/

  • Things exist without any explanation as to how they do and not much in the way of How it might come to be. But I find that even being a pessimistic individual without having tried it out for yourself 1st shows that he might not have been loved enough as a child you can around a lot of really crappy energy so rather than knocking something why don’t you go get the proof instead of trying to dispute that it’s legit. So here’s what I have to add to it I don’t have anything for you Add event my experience and I can tell you that I been through an awful lot in my life I am also a psychic I am sure you’ll scoff at that to my specialty Is medical O yes that’s right I can literally detect things that are not functioning correctly in a person’s body through sensory of feeling and after 14 years of intensive study inexperience with plant medicine and nutrition I’m being brought on a journey to heal not just my mind for my body after having healed myself a breast and lung cancer while living in my car for last 4 years but of my childhood traumas That surely have something to do including the current ones with the state that I’ve lived in in its not a state of grace on sad to report. I’ve had many and I know that there’s a reason for clearly innocent carried around like Santa Claus for the rest of my life and I am not a young person but I am not old. I am 52 years old my current residence is Walmart parking lot in Indian Trail of North Carolina and ensure you might want to investigate that to just to make sure that that’s not a scam. Personally I am not practicing and I don’t charge anything for my services because after several 1000 people Live written in my car as a ride share driver I have given some pertinent information to help people on their journey to healing. I have had one file field turning session and as that session was happening I could feel things in my body that were changing and moving that I’ve never felt before just like when I’m near someone that has bad energy I can feel that too. I will be going for 2nd session on the 18th. It has made an improvement it is helping me to release things than I’ve been harbouring. I didn’t end up in this parking lot because I wanted to I was dumped by my ex boyfriend who was a narcissist in alcoholic and addicted to pain pills which people like you prescribe he couldn’t get out of it and changed his life and reversed his prostate cancer with his help until he decided to start changing the way he looked at me and when he did that everything changed and not for the better Eventually after 22 hours of infuse in the fast moving vehicle across several state lines I was dumped at a gas station I was grateful at the same time I went Into a full CPTSD reel. It was the icing in the cherry on my cake. I had already been signed up with rideshare platforms. Because part of my therapy was to continually move due to the fact that I don’t imprisoned in the 2 and a 1/2 year relationship with narcissist in all his little goonies that we 9 children and their mates and children I felt I need to continuously move it was a sign of trauma. I couldn’t shake that and I couldn’t stop repeating the same patterns or cycles I also couldn’t release the resentment and in one treatment I felt a lot of benefit. That’s why I schedule the 2nd appointment which I didn’t do immediately I waited 2 weeks. It isn’t cheap and it is an expensive but I’m worth every time I have scars that no one can see from childhood that have been creating in my subconscious behaviours that are self defeating The constant chatter of negative thinking and emotional baggage of feeling not good enough not worthy and even contemplating taking my own life because I feel like or I felt like there wasn’t really any point after having been rejected and abandoned by my own children because it was just too uncomfortable to deal with the reality of the situation in no one was willing Intercede and allow me to collect myself To move forward. Most people are too busy blaming which means there not really seeing things for what that they are I didn’t end up being this way accidentally when I was born I didn’t utter my 1st words wishing that I would grow up to be An aspiring Walmart parking lot resident.according to fuse my children a complete failure as a mother. Or an absolute waste of time in energy as far as in make was concerned having had 2 failed marriages I didn’t wish for those things and I did give my best and my best was not good enough but that doesn’t mean that I waz a piece of garbage and yet as much as I told myself I wasn’t I still managed to feel like I waz. After all these traumas And extensive amount of work that I’ve done on myself extensive amount of work I’ve done with others only having charged a handful of people which meant that I would have to continue To work diligently in order to provide food for myself showers and laundry and keep the maintenance parts labour in repairs on my vehicle which is on its last leg after having gone from start at a 1000 miles to finish at 300000 miles and really just about have barely 2 dimes to rub together. I don’t partake in drugs I don’t drink I don’t overspend I don’t have a shopping addiction I’ve just been thrown awful I am willing to let go of everything that I have been holding on to whether I am aware of it or not in order to be able to move forward I don’t want to be anchored And a place for state of mind body or soul That has already served its purpose and does nothing more than keep me in a cyclic nightmare. S far as proper punctuation sentence paragraph structure I don’t worry myself with those things so if your negative many and all you want to do is pick apart my comment rather than actually Look at it with no bias and allow it to help you to decide whether or not you want to investigate personally rather than just picking people apart or something apart that you have no understanding of I think personally the best thing that you can do is go and have a couple of sessions take notes and like with any medication you might want to wait awhile and continued to keep tracker journal Any changes that you might have noticed. That’s true science but scientists nothing without spirituality and they do go both hand-in-hand regardless of whether you are willing to admit that are not. There’s a lot of information that goes back to the ancients and their findings that has also not been included here and has not been taken in consideration this is not something new this is something that has existed for a very long time and some of those people are instrumental in having shaped the modern allopathic medical system that has been of course bastardised and turned into being legal drug pushers not actual doctors . Because anyone who’s an actual doctor would not send someone home to die that is against the Hippocratic creed, the one that you took before you were able toGet your licence to practice medicine. Not only is that practice on conscionable it is immoral and nothing short of cruel there is no kindness or compassion and anyone who lacks that really does not qualify to be a physician it takes a special individual someone who is willing to stand by that person in their time of need and not Sam sorry but say I may not have the answer but I will find it and I will give my very best to help you to recover. Not insist on suppressing symptoms or removing body parts that clearly were meant to be there in the 1st place that there is some imbalance and things need to be harmonised and it is essentially what my understanding of biofil tuning is is to harmonise What is in discord energy medicine is proven because modern science uses energy in different ways to create certain effects as well but somehow that has slipped people’s awareness.What also like to note that when a person has too much disturbance in their body from something like electromagnetic frequencies which interfere with the harmony of Their physiology as it was when they were born Your immune system is aware that there is a problem whether you consciously are aware of it or not your immune system is doing what it can to mitigate whether your where that are not as well. So just because it’s unseen does not mean it does not exist and this is where the immune system is a perfect example so if you have WI fi and cell phones and smart watches and tvs and durty electric and your getting things from the smart Box like your electricity coming through your electrical outlets and you certain to find that you can’t sleep and you can’t rest in your Covered in toxicity because your entire house is made of toxic materials and now your health is getting worse and worse, Add insult to injury and your eating genetically Modified food Animals that have been abused have been drugged up with chemicals in hormone growth therapy filled with antibiotics and all these things eating diets that are unnatural to them being privy to infections and having some of that in your dairy that has been smoothed over into a gooey cheese By use of fluoride which of course counsel fies the pineal gland and makes you a negative ninny You might not be aware feature body is doing what it can to harmonise all of that nonsense and yet it can’t without some help now your mind body and soul you’re not just body I don’t care if you argue that Your immune system is doing what it can to help and of course it can’t help without getting some help because of this point is overwhelmed and yet you’re gonna say there’s no proof of something that you can’t see or measure and yet it exists and it’s manifesting physically with people having all the serious health issues. There’s no shortage of new medical names of diseases and illnesses
    just a D-Nile debate mockery And sheer ignorance
    Just because your ego was running the show in your copying you have a shit ton of letters behind your name does not mean that your actually intelligent it just means you think you are and you think that that gives you the right to go around and talk badly about things you have no experience with and have never done your own research on and I mean personal research like going to have file field tuning done and instead of judging either way it for being good or bad seeing if there is some benefit to You because of course were not gonna have a lot of people supporting this type of research and yet there is a body of medical science that Supports this therapy and can even explain it and some of your colleagues are out here doing just that but you want to post this garbage in an attempt to make yourselves feel good and yet you guys will be the ones that turn up with some horrific disease and try to address it with a bandage while its gushing blood like allopathic medicine does not treating the individual meaning yourself as a whole and end up suffering the consequences . I think it’s time for us to quit being so ignorant and start helping ourselves in helping others not by posting trash or trashing someone but by actually Putting our money where our mouth is and surely you make enough money in your fees are not cheap but you sit there and mock someone else? Without having even so much as walked into a fairfie Room to have a session or 2 or maybe 3 before you could actually say for certain whether or not it was quackery? Shame on you that’s what I have to say. And I don’t need to give you proof cause I am my own living testimony . I feel a sense of relief there’s plenty of garbage that needs to be removed In a long long time It’s not placebo either
    So matter of fact your personal research can be a tax deduction so I would go each of you who have even commented here in a negative manner take $300 go for 3 sessions and start taking notes every single day about the way you think you feel and you respond when something happens that seems to be different than your normal reaction see if you can’t break free of some of the invisible chains that have bound you I into being so rigid and unwilling to grow, as a Professional and as a layman

    Before you even bother to tear this comment apart because I assure you there isn’t anything you can say that would make me feel badly about expressing my opinion
    But at least it’s an educated opinion as opposed to an ignorant comment based on nothing

  • Dr Julian,

    I’m not one for social media, blogs or writing replies. I’m a straight forward factual type. The only reason I’ve written this is for you, after noticing your personal circumstances.

    I am / was / still a little undecidedly more sceptical than you about any of this energy healing than you can possibly imagine but please read on..,…I found this blog by chance tonight whilst checking the history of so called energy healing.

    Without going into personal medical details I’ve been through my fair share of poor health for the past twenty years. I have files of evidence based scientific testing from various countries including UK, Australia, USA, Germany and Switzerland. Throughout this period I’ve met some very good and let’s say very questionable doctors, consultants, therapists etc, from around the world. I’ve tried to keep an open mind to conventional and non conventional treatments. Some helped and others made things worse.

    Due to poor health, I moved to Australia in November last year to see if a change in climate and toxic exposure could benefit my health. One of my London doctors agreed this would be an interesting experiment and we agreed a three month ‘test’ period. Due to Covid and common sense to stay away from the virus and with the possible increased risk factor, I’m still in Australia.

    A few weeks ago I organised follow up testing to be undertaken by one of the German labs. The tests showed improvements in many levels and not so great in others. The follow up tele meeting with UK doctor started with a daunting “oh you’re still going then…..”, as though, woww, you’re not dead!

    Whenever possible I’ve tried to engage the services of conventional NHS trained and qualified (or other countries equivalent), doctors and consultants that have worked and gone beyond the realms of their necessary training into the thought zone, as to why are these practices are frequently not working. At the same time Ive also learnt to engage the help from therapists advising / treating, food, diet and musculoskeletal. Due to being very sceptical I’ve kept away from so called energy healers and the likes, until by chance. I met a new good friend earlier this year whilst in Asia, who is a so called reiki master. Before you laugh (and trust me writing this makes me smile) he refused to discuss anything about it as he was taking a three month break and valued the new found friendship. Anyway to cut to the chase a little. I was curious. He’s no idiot and his life story is very interesting. In chat regarding foods around the world, he suggested I contact someone from a world group listing of health advisers to try and find the best places locally in Australia to buy genuine local organic foods. I contacted a lady from the list.

    I arranged a meeting where I realised her naturally inquisitive nature, studies and qualifications were good. Food science is her subject but turns out she also has qualifications in energy healing, reiki primarily. I tried to keep an open mind and asked her to show me. To be honest I don’t think any reiki was actually done but who knows as I was as sceptical as you about these type of events. I’m not sure the difference between these type of treatments but I did notice some weird nerve transitions when touching areas on my feet in some sort of ‘healing’ session.

    Anyway, this went on for a couple of sessions along with try this and that advising I should try chi gong, meditation etc etc. Keeping this open mind I’ve tried but it’s probanly as weird to me as it is to you and don’t particularly feel comfortable doing such.

    A few weeks ago, the lady practitioner showed me a new machine she bought and asked if I would like to Try. At the time I didn’t know what or how it worked other than it was a so called energy correcting machine. Ive now had a few treatments and all I want to say is, it’s very weird. Weird for the better not worse. Like, as in good results. Last week (2nd session), that night slept pain free and felt, as much as I don’t want to write these words, ‘re energised’ (yes, laugh, I’m smiling again writing it, sounds ridiculous i kmow). The effect was so much I stated researching this thing to look to buying one. The device is made by a company called NES which turns out is in the UK or at least that’s where the company is based. I checked out the founders both with interesting stories. Watching their video clips if I hadn’t have had the good results I would have thought total scam. I’ve been successful in business for many many years and very wary of multi level businesses operations. Sadly I can see there is a mini pyramid approach to the business. If a patient goes down the route of taking the extra add on energised water droplets the practioner gets a financial kickback but in all honesty so do most practioners when prescribing controlled and non controlled pharmaceuticals, minerals etc.

    I have honestly changed my views slightly to the idea of all of this. I use the word slightly as let’s hope for the best and give it a few more sessions. In all honestly I can’t say I can remember any such strong positive changes from any conventional or unconventional medicine or other in such a short period of time. Weird is the word.

    Please look it up, find someone with the equipment, seems like there are many owners of this equipment in the UK and give it a go. Seriously you have nothing to loose. I can’t overemphasise how genuine I am and how skepticle I can be, but there is something very very weird for the good. If I knew you, I would book, pay and say “there you go, now give it a go”. That’s how weird this process is and how convinced ‘they’ are onto something. 🙂

    On a separate thought and please don’t feel obliged to answer as it’s nothing to do with the discussed subject, but is more with your field of work. What are your thoughts on DNA adducts and DNA adduct testing in relation to pre cancer stage alterations to health?

    • Luke,

      I can think of many possible explanations for your improvement but I have no way of know which of them, if any, are correct. Our state of well-being is in constant flux and mostly there is no obvious reason for this. I suspect that sub-clinical infections play a part here, based on my own experience of having many more off days since I became immunosuppressed, and then fewer again since Lockdown, but this is anecdotal and it would take a proper trial looking at daily changes in inflammatory and immunie markers in a sufficient number of individuals to investigate properly.

      Over the course of my career I have come to realise that most people are very bad at remembering their symptoms accurately, and while they will be able to tell you how much pain they have now, for instance, comparing their recall with documentary evidence of how it was yesterday, or even half an hour ago, shows it to be unreliable. I have also realised that people always attribute any change in their symptoms to something specific that seems plausible to them, regardelss of how well it correlates or how plausible it might be to anybody else.

      So I hope you will forgive me if I don’t investigate your energy correction machine any further.

      What are your thoughts on DNA adducts and DNA adduct testing in relation to pre cancer stage alterations to health?

      DNA adducts are segments of DNA that bind to specific chemicals, some of which are known carcinogens. This means that they can be used experimentally as markers for exposure. This is not the same as alterations to health, nor do they identify a pre-cancerous state. I would regard a pre-cancerous state as meaning that the cancer is already there, but is not yet large enough to be diagnosed. Most cancers are undetectable unless there are enough cancer cells present together in one place to produce a small lump (something like a small mole or pimple that you wouldn’t necessarily notice on your skin – on a scan this might show as a small non-specific cyst or nodule) this is about a billion cells (1,000,000,000). By this time the cancer has been present for long enough to have double roughly 30 times from the initial transformed cell. In practice this is years or often decades, which is one reason why not many cancers are found in young people. Since most cancers are fatal by the time they reach a trillion cells (1,000,000,000,000), which is only another 10 doublings, what we know as cancer only represents quite a late phase of the process.

      I doubt whether DNA adducts will prove to be very useful as a screening test for otherwise undetectable cancers (screening tests, by their nature, show a lot of false positives as they are designed not to miss cases), but this isn’t really my area of expertise. I am sure that there is a lot of money to be made out of convincing the worried well that they are worth testing for, however, considering the value of the market in DNA testing at the moment and that most of the results of such tests aren’t very meaningful.

    • Have a look at the first two minutes of these two promotional videos for the “NES energy restoring”-whatever…
      https://youtu.be/2c-UP-zAALM.
      and:
      https://youtu.be/tIcKEXUbYpU

      In two minutes, both videos provide rock hard evidence that this is a hoax. “Quantum” is the main keyword revealing the scam, butfar from the only simple clues.

      I refuse to believe anyone can be sostupid as to believe this joker. Unbelievable, literally.
      I am convinced that the “Luke” who writes the deviously promotional comment above, is that same guy as in the videos 🙂
      If I were a judge, I’d give him ten years of community service, cleaning public lavatories. Not for the scam only, but also for the videos

      • I ran out of time adding to the comment. I was saying that he should also serve time for the abysmally daft and badly directed promotional videos 😀

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