The INDY and many other news outlets reported that the British Tory MP, Andrew Bridgen, has called on prime minister Rishi Sunak to suspend mRNA covid vaccines after alleging they are “not safe, not effective and not necessary”.
During Wednesday’s PMQs (13 December), Bridgen stated that “since the rollout in the UK of the BioNTech-Pfizer mRNA vaccine, we have had almost half a million reports of adverse effects from the public”, a message he later reiterated on Twitter.
Posting a snippet from his debate, Bridgen tweeted: “Almost half a million yellow card reports of adverse effects following administration of the Biotech Pfizer mRNA vaccine in the UK alone! Answers are desperately needed. #completelyunprecedented”.
Bridgen also claimed that a leading figure in the British Heart Foundation is suppressing evidence that the Covid vaccines cause heart damage, even sending non-disclosure agreements to his research team.
Facebook flagged his post with a notice urging users to ensure that they share “reliable information.” It included two links to “continue sharing” or “get vaccine info.”
The scandals Bridgen has been involved in seem too numerous to mention (e.g. violation of parliamentary standards, homophobic remarks, antisemitic statements). Here is just one of the most recent:
A Leicestershire MP has been ordered to pay £800,000 and been evicted from his five bedroom home by a judge following a legal dispute involving the family vegetable business. It is currently unknown where Andrew Bridgen, Conservative MP for North West Leicestershire, lives after being given final deadline of August 24 to vacate the premises in Coleorton, near Coalville.
The 57-year-old was branded “dishonest” by a High Court judge in March – who ruled that Bridgen “lied” under oath. Judge Brian Rawlings said he was so dishonest that nothing he said about the dispute with AB Produce, a vegetable and potato supplier based in Measham, could be taken at face value.
Bridgen was also said to have behaved in an “abusive”, “arrogant” and “aggressive” way during the dispute, in which he has spent years suing the firm. A later judgment in June, reported by the Times on Sunday, forced the MP to vacate the £1.5 million-valued property owned by AB Produce that he has lived in since 2015…
For a fact check on Bridgeon’s vaccine claims, see here. And below are a few reactions from Twitter users to Bridgen’s Covid proctophsia:
First a High Court judge says Tory MP, Andrew Bridgen, lied under oath, then he evicts him from his home and orders him to pay £800,000 now Facebook flags his posts as Covid misinformation. How’s your week going?
Andrew Bridgen MP now promoting Dr David Cartland, a man who aligns himself with claims that Freemasons rule the world; that Covid doesn’t exist; and that medical doctors who don’t share his views should be executed (screenshots H/T
Andrew Bridgen MP now promoting Dr David Cartland, a man who aligns himself with claims that Freemasons rule the world; that Covid doesn’t exist; and that medical doctors who don’t share his views should be executed.
This Andrew Bridgen? ‘A Conservative MP lied under oath, behaved in an abusive, arrogant and aggressive way, and was so dishonest that his claims about a multimillion-pound family dispute could not be taken at face value, a high court judge has ruled.’
Proper tinfoil-hat stuff from Andrew Bridgen, suggesting Covid vaccines are unsafe, misrepresenting data, and implying some sort of conspiracy between ‘Big Pharma’ and MHRA.
“…what we do know is that people who question the efficacy or safety of the vaccine are generally cut down, cancelled… science works by challenge and these vaccines are not allowed to be challenged…” from 5:50 onwards here:
challenging established wisdom can be a good thing; telling lies is, however, never acceptable.
I was about to question your behaviour as a citizen, especially with regard to crimes such as fraud, domestic abuse, and of course murder. Because if you look at crime statistics, there are quite a few people out there who commit such heinous acts – and you may very well be one of them. So maybe it’s best if we lock you up right away, just in case.
But before I let loose, I give you the opportunity(*) to provide evidence that I am wrong about your criminal life – after all, we don’t want to spread any false accusations, now do we?
*: And that is already more than what this Bridgen person has done.
Science works by being challenged. Indeed so. But the challenge needs to have some logical and/or empirical basis.
IIRC, covid vaccines have been challenged by empirical evidence and appropriate changes to their use made.
If you looked yourself at the yellow card reports you will many are for sore arm at injection site. Other example are onset of haemorrhoids, dental caries and fractured clavicle. Hard to see a cause and effect link to vaccines here.
Stephen Hicks on Monday 19 December 2022 at 09:58 said:
“…If you looked yourself at the yellow card reports you will many are for sore arm at injection site. Other example are onset of haemorrhoids, dental caries and fractured clavicle. Hard to see a cause and effect link to vaccines here.”
Check out page 6 from here:
Myocardial infarction 333 (cases) 50 (fatal)
Myocardial ischaemia 16 (cases) 9 (fatal)
So let’s get this straight: millions of often OLD people get vaccinated, and then you cry wolf because 50 of those people are reported to have died from heart attacks within a couple of weeks or perhaps even months after receiving the vaccine?
Do you have any idea how very stupid you just made yourself look – AGAIN, I might add?
And oh, your reading skills do not appear to be all that good either: you completely ignore the many warnings that reporting is completely voluntary and open to anyone, and thus that those reports should not be used to suggest causality or draw any conclusions about safety.
And note that even these inane, suggestive and/or dishonest comments from people such as you are not cut down, cancelled, censored or otherwise suppressed, but merely debunked.
Excellent. Now you are engaging with data NOT headline grabbing statements.
Now you will need to.
Consider if the side effects reporting is complete.
Consider whether the effects are are a consequence of a vaccine or just a coincidental occurrence.
To do this you might consider the baseline occurrence of these effects.
Consider the occurrences you have now got to with the total number of people vaccinated.
Consider whether the risk you have now come up is outweighed by the benefits.
Oh – and you need to stratify all this for sex, age, social/societal/ethnic/morbidity background.
Personally, I can’t do this because I don’t have the skills and the data. So I trust people who do have the skills and data to do it for me.
Their conclusions can be found here https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1102459/Greenbook-chapter-14a-4September22.pdf and related documents.
When you have read through all this and think you have a reason to agree with Bridgen’s statement please come back and let us know.
To both of you above:
As “Good old Joe” said “…a million deaths is just a statistic.”:
Now scroll down slightly and look at the 2021 and 2022 totals, compared to all the other years from 1990, then scroll down some more and look at the temporal relationship between injection and onset.
Then multiply these results by the URF of 41x (Rose et al.) or 100x (Stanford et al.) and you get a pointer to the excess deaths of the highly vaccinated countries that are reported by MSM as “anything but the vaccines” – despite not one country or authority investigating it – how do they know? If so, what is the cause?
Reg. Openvaers.com “By presenting unverified data as fact, OpenVAERS has become one of the most powerful tools in the anti-vaxxer community.” https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj8mm3/this-woman-secretly-runs-one-of-the-worlds-biggest-anti-vax-websites-from-her-house Rose et al. has been withdrawn https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8483988/
You seem to have a severe reading disorder. So here it is again, in a somewhat clearer format:
DATA FROM VOLUNTARY, OPEN REPORTING SYSTEMS CANNOT BE USED TO ESTABLISH CAUSATION IN ANY WAY.
Then again, you may be just trolling. Either way, your comments don’t make you look any smarter.
He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot, but don’t let that fool you. He really IS an idiot. —Groucho Marx
Richard Rasker on Monday 19 December 2022 at 14:13 yelled:
“DATA FROM VOLUNTARY, OPEN REPORTING SYSTEMS CANNOT BE USED TO ESTABLISH CAUSATION IN ANY WAY.”
Do you mean to say that only: data from forced, secret reporting systems can establish causation?
Science is an open, non-secret, non-forced, debate by all, without censorship. In the light of day, not the dark of night.
I think he means to say that using such data is not science. GOT IT?
The scientists responsible for setting up VAERS and other reporting systems warn people all the time that data collected and presented in those system CAN’T BE USED TO ESTABLISH CAUSATION. This is for a multitude of very good, scientific reasons. Why else do you think those warnings are there(*)? (And note that I’m really stretching the meaning of the word ‘think’ here.)
*: You seem to me like the type of person who ignores the Maximum Height warning signs in front of a railway tunnel, and then blames the railway company when your truck is destroyed by driving through.
Richard Rasker on Monday 19 December 2022 at 15:59 said:
“The scientists responsible for setting up VAERS and other reporting systems warn people all the time that data collected and presented in those system CAN’T BE USED TO ESTABLISH CAUSATION.”
…or else? What is the penalty to be for questioning these royal personages? What are they afraid of? The truth does not need defense. It just *is*.
oh dear, you are surpassing yourself!
The consequence of not using the data collected by these scientists correctly is that you become a liar and a fraud, and will be treated as such.
They are not afraid of anything, They just want to prevent people such as you from misusing their data to spread lies. Which is what you are doing.
Lies and propaganda such as yours on the other hand require the deliberate misrepresentation of data and rejection of scientific principles.
Richard Rasker on Tuesday 20 December 2022 at 00:43 said:
“…Lies and propaganda such as yours…”
You are wrong. Most medical professionals are being suppressed by force, while the brave ones speak out:
NB the comments.
What, all 30 million of them worldwide? Do you have any evidence for this utterly crazy claim?
You know what is so strange? Among all the lies and misinformation that those ‘brave ones’ are spreading, not a single one of them has ever mentioned any attempts of them ‘being suppressed by force’, let alone pointed the finger at any organizations or persons responsible for this alleged suppression.
Which tells us that you’re just spouting crap. Again.
Richard Rasker on Tuesday 20 December 2022 at 10:40n said:
“…You know what is so strange? Among all the lies and misinformation that those ‘brave ones’ are spreading, not a single one of them has ever mentioned any attempts of them ‘being suppressed by force’…”
Yes, this is the latest. After Mr Ahmad Malik posted this:
OK, the usual misinformation and lies, with him being called out in the comments …
Strange, I can still see the man’s lies and misinformation online. So this is clearly another lie.
Anyway, I’ve been feeding the troll for long enough now, so I won’t respond to any more of your crap – as experience tells me that people like you have an endless supply, and I have much better things to do with my time.
Bridgen is a Brexiter. Brexit is political quackery. Support/promotion for/of both Brexit and medical quackery – including anti-vax pronouncements – suggests an association that would not be surprising. Certainly, pig-ignorance and craven dishonesty are common traits – as exemplified by Bridgen.
Lee Turnpenny on Monday 19 December 2022 at 09:14 said:
“Bridgen is a Brexiter. Brexit is political quackery.”
You have just insulted more than half the UK population that voted for Brexit. How does that further your cause?
Likewise “…Brexit and medical quackery – including anti-vax pronouncements…”. Do you think that bullying will work?
1) half the UK population did not vote for Brexit; it was just about one-third.
2) those who voted for it did so because they were lied to.
3) today, the majority of the UK population thinks Brexit was a mistake.
And we still hear the lie that Brexit enabled the UK to roll out the Covid vaccine sooner than EU countries despite the fact that any EU member can approve medicines in its own country without EMA approval. And in any case the UK was still in the transition period and so still subject to EU rules.
All Brexit did was cause the UK to lose jobs and influence when the EMA relocated to Amsterdam. Probably to be followed by more of the UK pharmaceutical industry.
Socrates on Monday 19 December 2022 at 10:42 said:
“And we still hear the lie that Brexit…”
…would cause overnight economic collapse.
The current lie is “Safe and Effective™” and “Prevent Transmission™” and “Safe in Pregnancy™” etc. These “vaccines™” are so safe that no investigation is required, nay, investigation-is-harmful-to-vaccine-hesitancy and anyone who even suggests it is guilty, without trial of being an anti-vaxxer, despite their having had the “vaccine™” such as Maddie De Garay.
So, Old Bob, do you really think Brexit isn’t causing economic collapse? I don’t recall it being seriously predicted to occur ‘overnight’ but if it was then that was an exaggeration given the long transition period. The full effects have yet to hit and already it’s bad.
But then I suppose such a worldview is entirely consistent with your other views – not just alternative medicine but alternative reality.
Socrates on Monday 19 December 2022 at 14:34 said:
“I don’t recall it being seriously predicted to occur ‘overnight’…”
Quote from here:
“A vote to leave would cause an immediate and profound economic shock creating instability and uncertainty which would be compounded by the complex and interdependent negotiations that would follow.
The central conclusion of the analysis is that the effect of this profound shock would be to push the UK into recession and lead to a sharp rise in unemployment. “
Ok Old Bob, so your defence is that the car crash is slower than predicted. I can acknowledge that, it’s largely due to the fudging of the consequences of the decision and the various concessions made. But look around and you’ll see that most of the predictions are biting.
Does that also mean we can expect to see the extra £350m a week for the NHS soon?
Socrates on Monday 19 December 2022 at 17:52 said:
“Ok Old Bob, so your defence is that the car crash is slower than predicted. I can acknowledge that, it’s largely due to the fudging of the consequences of the decision and the various concessions made. But look around and you’ll see that most of the predictions are biting.”
The chaos all around is because the government blew half a trillion pounds on destroying the economy to “flatten the curve ™” in three weeks, and because the injections are “Safe and Effective ™” and because “masking ™” and “social distancing ™” and PPE ™ likewise.
“Does that also mean we can expect to see the extra £350m a week for the NHS soon?”
That’s the trouble with “free medical care ™” – it’s too expensive.
I’m not going to argue about the government wasting money – much of it to their cronies for useless PPE. Nor about some of the over aggressive policing of the restrictions, much of it due to lack of clarity in the law and some of it due to…. well, just over aggressive police. Nothing to do with the virus itself.
As for your “free medical care” comment – had ever a point been more widely missed? That was a Brexit lie and whilst free medical care isn’t cheap just look at the cost of a for profit model.
A for profit medical system would work, that is to say a free market system. Many would argue that we have it, but not actually.
We don’t have it in the USA. We have a system that involves restricting education by limiting numbers (students) and exorbitant University cost. Insurance companies that go between patients and MDs that add cost by skimming profits for themselves. Furthermore, these insurance companies are limited to the public in choice and options…. lowering the advantage to consumers. Then we have the MDs that are not free to operate as they choose, they must adhere to AMA protocols. Beyond all this, we have MDs that must insure to the hilt because the dumbass court system allows for ridiculous malpractice awards.
If the “free-market” system could just eliminate all the red tape BS from the system, perhaps a patient could just see a doctor and pay out of pocket when needed. At a maximum be protected by what’s known as catastrophic care. A free-market system where doctors actually compete with EACH OTHER could work very well. However, it will never happen due to the greed of those that have rigged the system.
Much the same, capitalism and free markets are dwindling in most places. Crony Capitalism is the new economy.
That is correct.
“…the bond between men is not the exchange of suffering but the exchange of goods…” (Francesco’s money speech).
‘You have just insulted more than half the UK population… ‘
Actually, no I haven’t. Methinks it is you who (affects to) feel(s) insulted – and makes a statement that would require polling based on high subjectivity.
Your reaction is nothing new (‘bullying’? Get over yourself!), and reveals much.
What a promising headline! Edzard going after the pseudo-science of these ‘vaccines’? Great.
Bit what follows is just a string of attempted shots at the messenger, ad hominem to this MP? And the ‘interesting’ stuff relegated to special ‘debunking’ site cale dfullfactz that mangles the facts into submission via a few overly specific ‘dementia’?
Like ‘underreporting isn’t a thing’, because the ‘MHRA now modified their website to indicate that the underreporting [that still _is_ present!] is now different than before’?
The underreporting is certainly _bigger_ for this one, however scandalous the figures collected in that way may have been before. Vax-victims are kept ostracised.
Instead of cherrypricking some reports about tooth decay, sore arms etc, why not look at more serious events, like all the deaths? Hundreds and eventually thousands of ’em.
And those do occur, only some are actually counted as such, and the droves of vaccine injured that survived so far were and are given a very hard time to register their complaints. That is not just underrporting, but suppression of facts.
Just take this example: https://doi.org/10.3390/vaccines10101651 Dismissed, ridiculed and lied about, but then proven killed-by-vax. And ‘of course’, that case _still_ doesn’t show up in the local jurisdictions pharmacovigilance data.
And that is repeated through all levels. At my hospital, two thirds of colleagues were out of commission for at least a whole day. None of them even thought about reporting these side-effects. None of those injured I know personally has even their case properly acknowledged, diagnosed or
treated; no reports at all on those were even filed.
Since Edzard seems to chose ignorance on this one:
The saying extraordinary claims need extraordinary evidence?
The outrageous claims are:
– that these clot shots _are ‘vaccines’._
– that these toxic syringes do something good
– that these genetherapy injections would have indeed negligible harm
– that there would be some favourable cost-benefit ratio
– that this would have been proven in at least one proper RCT
So, Eddy, where is the RCT that proves all of that?
The Pfizer/Pollack one? The one that surely had not the slightest iff of a conflict of interest? That one that destroyed the control group after a few weeks? That had enormous drop outs, especially in the intervention group? Massive data fraud? Where more people died in the intervention group? Where more than half the number of the ‘posPCR’ from the control where matched with more than 70 people — not 8! — who by their very N-antibody status (that wasn’t publicised in the main publication text, as usual) were shown to have acquired _natural immunity_ while supposedly ‘remaining unifected via vax-protection’?
The result of the one gold standard RCT on vax-safety and efficacy shows that even with known fraud and other disingenious methods and sloppiness during the initial covidia year they could not manage to produce decent numbers showing a mere relative risk reduction that’s worth writing home about. And yet, Eddy’s belief is a strong one?
Could it be that homeopathy has much more and much better RCTs than these ‘vaccines’? (Note that I do not say that they would be all out positive for the mentioned ‘treatment’. But HP _has_ those trials to evaluate it!)
There is no proper study of even vax effectiveness, and fullfact just piles up on the lies. Seeing Edzard sharing and endorsing this shows how national-vaccinist the orientation of this smear campaigners dog pile is. Linking to the bullshit-site called fullfact was the last nail needed to hammer this in?
Or will you take a look yourself, and apply an autopsy, with the usual standards touted about on this blog? Looking at the catastrophic balance sheet for these shots?
Oh look. Another foaming loon with another Gish Gallop of tinfoil-hatted garbage. Shall we do a patient evidence-based piece-by piece deconstruction of his nonsense?
No. A waste of time.
Because it won’t change anything. Michael will continue to believe what he believes no matter what we say because he’s yet another ignorant antivax halfwit who needs to believe he’s party to Special Facts in order to boost his deficient ego.
Run along, Michael. Reality will continue without you.
“The British Heart Foundation’s advice on vaccines is based on rigorous scrutiny of the latest evidence, which to date shows that the benefits of receiving the Covid -19 vaccine greatly outweigh the risk of extremely rare side effects for the vast majority of people.”
OK, it’s suspect, but even if it’s true that the benefit outweighs the risk. You are forcing a population to get jabbed at least three times per year to have good efficacy, the efficacy dwindles fast after that. So, with no evidence that it stops transmission or infection from or to any individual patient, only a suspicion that the patient jabbed won’t die from the virus.
This is not how that vaccines were sold to us. We were told that if we didn’t take the jab, we were killing grandma. So, in essence, people are being forced to be vaccinated to protect THEMSELES from potential death.
This should not be. This is not much different from forcing any therapy that could have negative consequences on a patient with a chronic illness.
Bridgen is a fascinating character
All my time is currently spent on researching some appalling quackery and abuses right now so no time to share in depth but this piece is a good starting place if readers are interested in learning more about Mr Bridgen
‘fascinating’ is a very benevolent term to describe him.
just found this on Twitter:
Andrew Bridgen SUSPENDED from commons for 5 days due to ‘breaching lobbying rules’.
FDA admits that Pfizer covid vaccine has serious side effects.
has anyone ever disputed it?
and please show me the 2 morons in your video again.
It’s not being reported in the mainstream news outlets.
This is how they keep BS-ing the public.
… or perhaps you specialize in conspiracy sites and videos?
In any case, the original press release from the pharma firm would be more relevant that the comments of 2 morons.
And the most logical explanation for that it is most probably a lie – just like all those other thousands of ‘bombshells’ that those
sewerschannels dream up to keep their sheeple hooked.
Here’s the channel page for your original YT link: https://www.youtube.com/@RedactedNews
It’s one big heap of pro-Putin propaganda, lies and other filthy garbage. I almost feel that I need a shower after visiting it.
The other channels are not much better. Here’s the actual paper that their lies were based on – and that you would have linked to in the first place if you were an honest person:
Scientists evaluated 14 types of adverse events in millions of 65+ vaccine recipients, based on data from early-warning systems, and concluded that the data signalled a slightly elevated risk in one of those AE’s, pulmonary embolism. However, a signal is NOT a proven causal link – and this is also what those researchers explicitly say:
“Because an early warning system does not prove that the vaccines cause these outcomes, more robust epidemiologic studies with adjustment for confounding, including age and nursing home residency, are underway to further evaluate these signals.”
So no, the FDA does not ‘admit that Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine is linked to blood clotting’ AT ALL. They are just researching a signal, a possible link that may well be a statistical artefact. After all, they assessed no less than 14 different types of adverse events – which means that it is not unexpected that at least one of those appears to show an increase.
What all this means is that this ‘bombshell’ is indeed just a lie from the gutter media.
It is almost painful to watch how rationally challenged people such as you keep falling for this kind of crap.
Richard Rasker on Tuesday 20 December 2022 at 15:23 said:
“And the most logical explanation for that it is most probably a lieWhat all this means is that this ‘bombshell’ is indeed just a lie from the gutter media…
It is almost painful to watch how rationally challenged people such as you keep falling for this kind of crap.”
Just as you fall for this “kind of crap”:
Well of course it’s a lie Richard, just like it was a lie that the Covid virus came from Wuhan…. those raciest, tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist.
even your attempt on humor does not work.
Not humor professor…. it’s called sarcasm.
Edzard, I have learned never never never to expect anything but negative comments from you.
And I thought you had learned never never never to post anything but nonsense.
Well, good to hear you at least admit that; your honesty is appreciated. But could you please explain why you posted this in the first place? Maybe it is somehow fun to dump this kind of garbage here and watch people sift through it in order to conclude that, yes, it is garbage? I’m genuinely curious.
SARS-Cov2 is man-made:
I do wonder what sort of rubbish you will present us next and pretend it’s evidence
Maybe Jeffrey Sachs will change your mind?:
isn’t it time you learned what amounts to evidence and what not?
Old Bob wrote “SARS-Cov2 [sic] is man-made”.
In the COVID‑19 pandemic caused by variants of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS‑CoV‑2) — a strain of coronavirus that causes COVID‑19 symptoms — humans are the primary organism (host) whose cells replicate the virus. The replication process is prone to errors, some of which lead to genetic mutations, some of which lead to the emergence of new variants.
So, yes, the virions of these variants could be said to be “man‑made”; manufactured within/by infected human cells.
Please show me the credentials of Jeffrey Sachs that he can determine the origin of Corona. He doesn’t have any? No wonder, because Sachs is an economist without any corresponding scientific training on this subject.
“eugyppius” is some conspiracy blog from Bavaria, Germany, like a thousand others.
Dr. Aseem Malhotra is a cardiologist without any knowledge of virology, immunology or epidemiology who spreads conspiracy theories and misinformation about corona and corona vaccination.
Your proofs and witnesses are trash.
I have no problem believing a whistle blower over a government agency that has everything to hide.
I’m forever grateful to Edward Snowden.
Careful what you say, buddy. There are many ways for
governmentgubmint to track you, for example: vaccines, roads, public transit, internet, water, power, literally anything that gubmit had a hand in providing. If you look out your window, you will see a drone circling above your house. It is there locked and loaded, ready to drone your a$$, as soon as it receives orders from President Bidet. Everything you say and think is being recorded in a gubmit database, do you know that? I bet you don’t because you keep brainlessly yammering on and on here and elsewhere.
You know what happened to Trump, right? he is sitting in jail right now for speaking the truth. He is too big to get droned, so they secretly arrested him and threw him in jail. That’s right! mainstream media is not reporting it, they are acting like he is still at mara-lago. You on the other hand are a smidgen on big gubmit’s jack boots and they will drone you without hesitation. Therefore, allow me to provide you with an opportunity to protect your hindquarter from big gubmint intrusion. I sell various tinfoil hats that will prevent the gubmit from reading your thoughts. For Yappy McYappington types like you, I recommend my best seller The Big Red Invisible for $1000. It is a big red invisible tinfoil hat that you put on and forget about it and go on with your life yapping about gubmit overreach and what not and their drones won’t be able to pinpoint your location. If you refer 10 of your fellow gubmit hating idiots to me, I will send you a lifetime supply of Big Red Invisible for free, just pay $69.69 for S+H. What are you waiting for? Act now before you get yourself droned!
Dr Malhotra was pro the covid-jab, but changed his mind after it killed his father:
sorry to hear that.
and now for the evidence [rather than anecdote]
Run along OB. Take your trash with you when you leave.
Former federal MP and high-profile medic Dr Kerryn Phelps says both she and her wife have suffered vaccine injuries from their Covid jabs – and claimed regulators are censoring discussion on the topic.:
you are amazingly resistant to learning and evidently have not yet understood what amounts to anecdote and what to evidence.
These are anecdotes in a documentary called “anecdotals”:
NB that these anecdotes were banned on youtube in 48 hours, just as these folks have been abandonned by the FDA, whose job it is to protect them.
Pete Attkins on Wednesday 21 December 2022 at 23:35 said:
“Often, it is difficult to judge whether somebody is willfully ignorant or truly deluded.”
Barnes summed it up in one sentence, as “…motivated reasoning: Motivation is the mast of our reason, always, reason is never the master of motivation…” (1:20:00) here:
Evidently, we all started out, emotionally-driven to reason that vaccines are the best because it is self-evident that avoidance is best! Likewise the eradication of all sorts of diseases! Hence there *cannot* be any counter argument, hence there is no point listening, hence they should be banned!
So by “pure logic” we have moved from free speech to censorship.
No, we got there more by emotional-drive, than by logic because we cannot have free speech and censorship at the same time, just as you cannot have cancer and not have cancer at the same time.
So to avoid the contradiction, you roll back the censorship and allow discussion… and let the otherside speak (as on this blog), with their own motivated-reasoning, as a counter-balance and, with time and experience, with anecdotes and evidence, with observational and randomly-controlled-blind studies, data accumulates and the most likely truth emerges, despite our own beliefs or in accordance with them, depending on how well we know the world and ourselves, etc.