MD, PhD, FMedSci, FRSB, FRCP, FRCPEd.

The Internet is full of complete nonsense about alternative medicine, as we all know. Much of it could be funny – if it was not so extremely dangerous. Misinformation on health can (and I am afraid does) kill people. One of the worst BS I have seen for a long time is this article entitled ‘Here’s What Oncologists Won’t Tell You About Essential Oils’.

A few excerpts might be of interest:

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…The human body resonates at a frequency of 62-78 MHz and scientists believe that diseases start at 58 MHz. Many studies have shown that negative thoughts can reduce our frequency by 12 MHz, while positive thinking raises it by 10.

This means that there are many things that can affect our health in ways we can’t imagine.

According to the latest studies, essential oils can fight cancer thanks to their antibacterial properties and their ability to change the frequency we resonate at.

One of the scientists involved in the study, Bruce Tainio, developed a special Calibrated Frequency Monitor that measures the frequency of essential oils and how they affect us. M. Suhail, an immunologist, says that cancer develops when the DNA in our cells’ nucleus is corrupted.

Essential oils can correct this and repair the code, effectively improving our chances against the terrible disease…

In his book “The Body Electric”, R. O. Becker said that our bodies’ electronic frequency determines our health.

Even Nikola Tesla said that removing outside frequencies can make us more resistant against ailments, while Dr. Otto Warburg discovered over a century ago that our cells have a specific electrical voltage that can drop due to a various factors and trigger diseases such as cancer.

However, science has now discovered that essential oils with higher frequencies can destroy diseases with lower frequencies.

Here’s a list of some of the oils used in the research and their electrical frequencies:

  • Juniper – 98 Mhz
  • Angelica – 85 Mhz
  • Frankincense – 147 MHz
  • Rose – 320 Mhz.
  • Sandalwood – 96 Mhz
  • Helichrysum – 181 MHz
  • Peppermint – 78 Mhz
  • Lavender – 118 Mhz

In the study, cinnamon, thyme, jasmine and chamomile oils had the best results when put up against breast cancer cells. Chamomile destroyed 93% of the cells in vitro, while thyme destroyed 97% of the cells…

11 oils were examined in total including bitter and sweet fennel, winter savory, peppermint, sage, lavender, chamomile and thyme.

Frankincense oil

According to Suhail, frankincense oil can divide the nucleus of cancer cells from the cytoplasm and prevent it from reproducing. The oil works thanks to the presence of the so-called monoterpenes which have the ability to kill cancer cells.

Frankincense oil works in all stages of cancer and is cytotoxic, meaning it doesn’t destroy healthy cells.

End-stage liver cancer patient

In the study, a patient with end-stage liver cancer was given only a few months left to live. The tumor was inoperable due to the large size, so having nothing to lose, the man decided to try frankincense oil.

He applied a bit under his tongue and topically on the area of the liver, and on his next doctor visit, the tumor has already reduced in size. The patient continued using frankincense oil, and it eventually reduced just enough to be operable. His tumor was later removed and the man is now happily enjoying his life free of cancer.

A child with brain cancer

One of the toughest cases among all the patients in the study was a little girl aged 5 with brain cancer. After exhausting all other options, the parents decided to give the girl a mixture of frankincense and sandalwood oil.

They rubbed the mixture on her feet while also rubbing a bit of lavender on her wrist. After a few months, the cancer was completely defeated!

Bladder cancer patient

Jackie Hogan is a woman suffering from bladder cancer who needed to undergo a surgery for bladder removal due to the cancer.

However, she decided to try using essential oils in her condition and after a few months of applying a mixture of sandalwood and frankincense oil topically on the area, she is cancer-free.

Stage-4 cancer patient

One woman in the research was diagnosed with stage-4 lung cancer which has already spread to other organs in her body.

Instead of agreeing to chemo and surgery, the woman started applying a bit of frankincense oil topically on the affected areas of her body every 2-3 hours and she was completely healthy in 7 months.

Breast cancer patient

A woman diagnosed with advanced breast cancer used a mixture of frankincense and lemongrass oil (topically and under the tongue) to defeat the disease in only a few months.

Cervical cancer patient

A woman with cervical cancer was given only a few months left to live, but thanks to the powers of frankincense oil, she managed to defeat the diseases in a couple of months.

There are many more patients who have managed to defeat different types of cancer using the remarkable powers of various essential oils…

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Unspeakable nonsense!

I managed to find 4 of the studies this article seems to refer to:

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Differential effects of selective frankincense (Ru Xiang) essential oil versus non-selective sandalwood (Tan Xiang) essential oil on cultured bladder cancer cells: a microarray and bioinformatics study.

Dozmorov MG, Yang Q, Wu W, Wren J, Suhail MM, Woolley CL, Young DG, Fung KM, Lin HK.

Chin Med. 2014 Jul 2;9:18. doi: 10.1186/1749-8546-9-18. eCollection 2014.

2.

Frankincense essential oil prepared from hydrodistillation of Boswellia sacra gum resins induces human pancreatic cancer cell death in cultures and in a xenograft murine model.

Ni X, Suhail MM, Yang Q, Cao A, Fung KM, Postier RG, Woolley C, Young G, Zhang J, Lin HK.

BMC Complement Altern Med. 2012 Dec 13;12:253. doi: 10.1186/1472-6882-12-253.

3.

Chemical differentiation of Boswellia sacra and Boswellia carterii essential oils by gas chromatography and chiral gas chromatography-mass spectrometry.

Woolley CL, Suhail MM, Smith BL, Boren KE, Taylor LC, Schreuder MF, Chai JK, Casabianca H, Haq S, Lin HK, Al-Shahri AA, Al-Hatmi S, Young DG.

J Chromatogr A. 2012 Oct 26;1261:158-63. doi: 10.1016/j.chroma.2012.06.073. Epub 2012 Jun 28.

PMID:
22835693
4.

Boswellia sacra essential oil induces tumor cell-specific apoptosis and suppresses tumor aggressiveness in cultured human breast cancer cells.

Suhail MM, Wu W, Cao A, Mondalek FG, Fung KM, Shih PT, Fang YT, Woolley C, Young G, Lin HK.

BMC Complement Altern Med. 2011 Dec 15;11:129. doi: 10.1186/1472-6882-11-129.

PMID:
22171782

Free PMC Article

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I do not think that these papers actually show what is claimed above. Specifically, none of the 4 articles refers to clinical effects of essential oil on cancer patients. In fact, according to a 2014 review, and a 2013 paper (the most recent summaries I found) there are no clinical trials of essential oil as a cure for cancer.

The conclusion therefore must be this: Essential oils might be an interesting area of research, yet one has to tell consumers and patients very clearly:

there is no evidence to suggest that using essential oils will change the natural history of any type of cancer. 

71 Responses to Here’s What Oncologists Won’t Tell You About Essential Oils

  • I have always found that the major essential oils are olive, canola and sesame though some heretics include sunflower oil.

    The human body resonates at a frequency of 62-78 MHz and scientists believe that diseases start at 58 MHz. Many studies have shown that negative thoughts can reduce our frequency by 12 MHz, while positive thinking raises it by 10.

    That does it! I am getting a 3 metre iron stake, some heavy duty copper wire and grounding myself.

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    I wonder how many people this stupid article will help kill? It looks like a parody that Alan Sokal would be envious of but people will take it seriously.

    I suspect I even know some who would fall for this crap.

    • My brother has liver cancer that has grown so large that it is non operable. I told him to start using oils and he said his doctor told him to not use anything but just do the Chemo. He called the oils snake oils. I told him I will use my snake oils any day over your Chemo,if I ever get cancer. After 2 weeks on Chemo, he was admitted to the hospital and they said he was with-in minuets of dying. He told the doctor no more Chemo. He is home now using the oils. His last visit the tumor had not grown, so he is stable. Even if you choose Chemo, you can still use the oils and thousand have found that they work for them. I can honestly say I have known a dozen people in the past few years that did Chemo and only lived about a year at the longest and all of them said they would never do Chemo again. Chemo has worked on some people but for the majority it is a death sentence of torture.

      • I did chemo for stage 3A Lung Cancer. My red,white and hemoglobin numbers dropped and my sister put Frankincense Oil on my feet with Fractionated Coconut Oil and all of my Blood counts numbers came up. Best of Prayers to you and Yours💖

      • It sounds as though the single dose of chemo that your brother had has stabilised his cancer for a while. Though from what you say it was probably not liver cancer, which isn’t normally treated with chemo, but cancer which had started somewhere else and spread to his liver.

        With regard to palliative chemo (i.e. used in incurable cancer with the aim of controlling symptoms and prolonging life) it is very important to monitor it carefully and stop at once if it isn’t working or if the side-effects become unacceptable. It is also important not to start it unless the patient is reasonably fit – the most important indicator of prognosis is how well they are to begin with.

        My father was diagnosed with metastatic stomach cancer and by the time the diagnosis was made he had lost nearly 30Kg and was in a wheelchair. I didn’t think he was well enough for chemo but he insisted, so I arranged for him to be seen at the hospital where I was working. Although it was a two-hour drive from his home he decided to have his treatment there, and he actually seemed to enjoy his trips to London for chemo, not least because he had a number of ex-girlfriends who lived nearby and they would visit him on the ward. He would also flirt outrageously with the nurses… Although the drugs he was on are known to be very toxic (cisplatin, mitomycin C and 5-fluorouracil) he found the side-effects quite manageable.

        Following the first dose he was well enough to have a short walk with me in a local bluebell wood. By the time he had completed 24 weeks of treatment he was well enough to take himself off to a university reunion and dance at a wedding. Once year after starting treatment the cancer came back and progressed very quickly; within a few weeks he had died. But that year of good-quality life was of immeasurable value to him and to our family. Don’t knock only living a year.

        I have never wanted to deny the chance of a similar benefit to my own patients, and I have seen this sort of response (and better) many times over. But of course not everybody does well with chemotherapy and it is so important not to push it too far. The problem is when you know that some people are going to benefit and some aren’t, but you can’t know in advance which they are.

        There is now a lot of active research into why some cancers respond to chemotherapy and others don’t, and this, together with the development of targeted therapies, is changing the approach to managing metastatic and incurable cancers. As cancer treatment becomes more personalised we are going to see a lot fewer people having treatment that isn’t going to help them.

        ” I have known a dozen people in the past few years that did Chemo… for the majority it is a death sentence of torture.”
        A sample of a dozen people does not justify such a sweeping generalisation. Oncologists base their advice on data collected from many thousands of individuals in clinical trials, and on their own years of experience. You are also implying that chemo shortened their lives, which may not necessarily have been the case. And to use the word “torture”, which is the deliberate infliction of pain, is an insult to the many professionals working in oncology who put the welfare of their patients above everything else.

        The decision whether or not to have chemotherapy in these situations is a personal one, and should only be taken after due consideration and after the person has been properly informed.

        I should add that anybody considering palliative chemotherapy and reading your post is likely to find it unsettling and confusing, and not helpful in making a decision.

    • None of these are essential oils.

  • I can’t see how the human body has one particular frequency of resonance – rather different parts might have different frequencies? Whatever, this whole essential oil stuff is just daft. How do you define what is an essential oil – as opposed to non essential? I would imagine by the profit margin of the purveyor.

    • Stephen Hicks said:

      Whatever, this whole essential oil stuff is just daft. How do you define what is an essential oil – as opposed to non essential?

      It’s a common misconception that ‘essential’ relates to being in some way necessary. It simply means it contains the ‘essence’ of a plant’s fragrance (whatever that is).

      • Essential oils are produced by steam distillation of the respective plant. A more suitable name is volatile oil, as they completely evaporate in air.

    • “Essential” in the case of plant oils merely refers to the oil containing the ‘essence’ of a plant’s scent.

      But you’re dead right about the frequency nonsense. It’s a concept that dates back to the first part of the 20th century, thanks to a couple of cranks called Albert Abrams and Royal Raymond Rife. Both these guys claimed to be able to cure cancer by electromagnetic impulses set to the same frequency as that of the disease. New Age fans seized on the concept of ‘vibrations’ associated with living matter (they often quote Einstein saying that “Everything is vibration”, though I’ve never been able to track down exactly what Einstein said or in what context).

      If you want to explore and enjoy the vibration nonsense, just google “human body resonates at a frequency of 62-78 MHz” and you’ll open the entire can of worms.

      • Indeed. I’ve yet to come across a quack who can give an explanation of the word ‘frequency’ other than saying it means vibration – vibration of what, they are never too clear. And don’t ask them for magnitude, power, etc. Well beyond them.

    • Originally these oils were ‘essence’ – distilled down.
      As in ‘essence de parfum’.
      In English this became ‘essential’ which in terms of strict etymology, they are.

      But by corruption this now conveys the idea they are ‘vital’.
      They are not, but camists take advantage for marketing.

      They would wouldn’t they!

      • Unfortunately, this is true. Human greed has corrupted so many natural remedies that it’s become a nightmare to find solid factual information.

        I do however believe that plant based medicines are far better than synthetic pharmaceuticals. Lifestyle also plays a huge role in longevity.

        • Stacey Lajeunesse said:

          it’s become a nightmare to find solid factual information.

          Two questions:

          1. Where might solid factual evidence be found?

          2. How would you distinguish between solid factual evidence and nonsense/marketing hype?

          I do however believe that plant based medicines are far better than synthetic pharmaceuticals.

          Why do you believe that?

          • For one thing, our bodies aren’t even meant to absorb synthetic junk.
            My father has been alive over 2 years now using essential oils, turmeric and antioxidants.
            This regimen came about after much research and the fact that the “maintenance chemo” for multiple myeloma was literally killing him. His labs and light chain numbers/proteins have all remained at a normal level since starting the eo’s.
            Besides, if it’s good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for my family.
            Also, I have a personal friend who worked on an oncology board at a major hospital who did not hesitate to tell us….”if you think that there are not benefits to Drs. who get that port in you ASAP after a cancer diagnosis, think again”! It’s a money racket for sure!
            If you know the science of it, the C word is something they came up with to scare people into submission of their high dollar treatments. It is in fact not any scarier than the common cold, and diseases such as high blood pressure and Diabetes are as much a health factor as the big “C”.
            People need to cut out the sugar and all the lifestyle things that knowingly do harm to our bodies, then we’ll see where cancer ends up on the scary list.

          • Sally said:

            For one thing, our bodies aren’t even meant to absorb synthetic junk.

            What on earth do you mean by that?

            Besides, if it’s good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for my family.

            LOL!

            If you know the science of it, the C word is something they came up with to scare people into submission of their high dollar treatments. It is in fact not any scarier than the common cold, and diseases such as high blood pressure and Diabetes are as much a health factor as the big “C”.

            Now I know you’re taking the piss!

          • Sigh… another one who doesn’t understand the way different cancers behave and why it is unreasonable to attribute the extra years to turmeric, sugar free diet, etc. but luck, chemotherapy and whatever other therapy already received . Anyone have the energy to reply in more detail and explain better to Sally why she is wrong?

          • Sally

            The cost of cancer treatment is quite high already, and getting higher than many can comprehend.
            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5159700/

            “As bad as the financial costs of modern myeloma treatment are, they pale in comparison with what we anticipate in the near future. For example, trials are evaluating the promise of KRD as initial therapy; this regimen is ∼1.5 to 2 times more expensive than VRD.46,49 But more important in terms of cost is the likely addition of daratumumab, a highly active monoclonal antibody to various triplet regimens currently in use for the treatment of myeloma to create quadruplets that could cost in excess of $300 000 per year.”

            Where does it all end … When everybody is broke ? Even if the medical payment is government sponsored, where do governments get their money ? hmmm.

            I agree with what you say about “synthetic junk”. I just refer to them all as toxins, I think toxins are what you are referring to. In reality toxins don’t need to be synthetic to be toxic to humans. I wouldn’t single sugar out for cancer, too much sugar leads to all sorts of disease. There are studies that indicate that there are other foods that are cancer causing. In fact, red meat is strongly suspected to be a carcinogen. Processed meats are known to be cancer causing.

            All disease come down to health at the cellular level. Cells are healthy when they get enough of what they need, and less of what is bad for them. Cells are in dis-ease when they get too much of what is toxic to them, and not enough of what makes for healthy cells and healthy cell reproduction.

            This is NOT over simplification.

          • “This is NOT over simplification”
            correct! it’s gross over-simplification.

          • Did I over simplify about the cost of treating cancer also … Or am I correct about that ?

          • Crickets … no reply from the Pharma sponsored blog

            https://www.ajmc.com/newsroom/study-examines-costeffectiveness-in-multiple-myeloma-treatments

            ” New drugs to treat multiple myeloma (MM) have provided clinical benefits, but a study published in the Journal of Managed Care & Specialty Pharmacy found not all of them can be considered cost effective.

            Historically, 2 drugs—bortezomib (BOR) and lenalidomide (LEN)—have been used in combination with dexamethasone (DEX) to treat MM. However, 5-year survival rates remain below 50% with a single course of drug therapy costing between $75,000 and $250,000. There has not been an evaluative of the cost effectiveness of other drugs used to treat following relapse, including pomalidomide (POM), carfilzomib (CFZ), ixazomib (IX), daratumumab (DAR), elotuzumab (ELO), and panobinostat (PAN).

            “The availability of effective treatment options for MM patients is of paramount importance,” the authors wrote. “However, in an era of continuing increases in healthcare spending and drug prices, it is also important to understand the relationship between costs and outcomes achieved.”

          • RG said:

            no reply from the Pharma sponsored blog

            More flailing…

          • More sickness disease and death from Big Pharma drugs designed to cure illness. They just keep coming.

            Gilead hit with more lawsuits over harmful side effects of AIDS drug.
            “For years, Gilead represented its TDF-based medications as safe and effective, misleading Plaintiffs, their doctors, and the medical community into believing that no safer alternative design existed that would have saved Plaintiffs from TDF’s dangerous effects,” says one of the two lawsuits filed July 12 in Alameda County, Calif., Superior Court.

            “Indeed, it was Gilead that discovered and helped develop the safer design around the same time it developed TDF in the mid to late 1990s,” the lawsuit says. “Gilead, however, shelved TAF, the safer design, in 2004. Gilead marketed and sold only the dangerous and less effective design – TDF and TDF-based combination pills – for approximately 15 years,” the lawsuit continues.

            https://www.washingtonblade.com/2019/07/18/gilead-hit-with-more-lawsuits-over-harmful-side-effects-of-aids-drug/

          • Tell you what RG.
            When you reveal your full name and credentials and explain to us why we should discuss the finer points of difficult subjects such as managed care and health economics regarding cancer therapy cost effectiveness in the US. Then I promise we will decide if we want to stop ignoring your amateurish attempts at sounding smart and respond respectfully even to your most ignorant comments.

          • What ‘Pharma sponsored blog’, RG?

          • Bjorn

            Who died and left you king of the blog message board ? Is EE OK ?

            My credentials ?? …. lol
            We’ve had this discussion before, credentials do little more than give a license to kill. Nobody needs credentials to understand that Big Pharma is over charging for cancer. Making long term customers of sick patients, while extracting all their money…. wow, what a business model. No wonder Big Pharma is hated.

            Some Pharmaceutical Corporations actually kill the patients outright…. this is bad bad bad, not good.
            https://www.denverpost.com/2019/08/28/oxycontin-settlement-12-billion-purdue-pharma/

            Since you asked, I’m a gas station attendant…. there ya go.

          • do you sell laughing gas?

  • I’ve been to Grasse in France visiting the principles of the very different ways of production of such essences sometimes even wax is used for extraction. For explanation let me quote the following:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Essential_oil

  • I absolutely LOVE my essential oils and find they help me in many facets of my life. That being said ESSENTIAL OILS DO NOT CURE ANYTHING. These oils help you through many things bit never would I advertise my oils as a cure for anything.

  • I love my essential oils and the way I can get rid of many chemicals in my home by using them. I would never say they cure anything. That being said I believe a persons health decision belong to them, not me or anyone else. If they decide a holistic alternative medicine instead of the poison in chemo or radiation it is nobody’s business but their own.

    • Same thing for wearing seatbelts in a road vehicle or a plane? Should tobacco companies be free to advertise however they want, where and whenever they want? How about when a parent decides on a ‘holistic alternative medicine’ for a child? Exactly when should society step in on what you regard as “nobody’s business but their own”?

      BTW, essential oils are themselves chemicals. What do you use to get rid of them from your home?

      • Frank,

        It costs taxpayers a lot of money when people refuse to wear seatbelts and get in a car accidents. How much does it cost the taxpayer when a cancer patient refuses chemo or radiation?

        Or do you see it as a moral issue – saving people from doing things wrong?

        • I see it as an ethical issue: saving people from their own stupidity. Your economic argument is disgraceful, from my point of view. It’s like saying we should encourage as many people as we can to smoke in order to save taxpayers’ money on pensions and welfare support because smokers will die a lot earlier.

        • It all really comes down to the issue of informed consent, as Richard Rawlins so often reminds us. If a patient chooses to refuse chemo- or radiation therapy because they don’t want to face the possible side-effects that’s indeed entirely their own business, but if they’re choosing essential oils over chemo/radio because somebody’s told them essential oils can cure cancer, that’s an entirely different issue.

          The raison d’être of Edzard Ernst’s blog is the very widespread amount of misinformation on health issues, with ‘holistic alternative medicine’ erroneously championed as a panacea that can replace orthodox medicine to the extent that the latter is cast in the role of the enemy of health.

        • Frank,

          “Your economic argument is disgraceful, from my point of view.”
          That’s actually not MY argument.

          “I see it as an ethical issue: saving people from their own stupidity.”
          I see that as disgraceful. Both the idea in and of itself, and the way you try to frame forcing your own moral view on people as an “ethical” issue. Your phrasing is frequently used by the religious right in their effort to control womens’ reproductive rights.

          “The raison d’être of Edzard Ernst’s blog…”
          If that’s true, the amount of misinformation, misleading framing, etc on this site isn’t helping the cause. From Chinese medicine to cupping to jackfruit to discounts on massage (and who knows – maybe homeopathy, chiropractice, etc – I don’t know enough about those) – posts and comments range from blatantly (and easily verified) wrong to having a distinctly deceptive taste.

        • “Your economic argument is disgraceful, from my point of view.”
          That’s actually not MY argument.

          Wrong “jm”. You probably did not invent the argument yourself, you’re not the thinker, but you made it your own by posting it 😀

          As to your claims of misleading and misinformation – how about substantiating your fantastic assertions with some verifiable information and facts instead of diverting and obfuscating and quoting ancient scriptures?

          • Wow Bjorn, I’d hardly call Unschuld’s commentary & analysis “ancient”. The one that contradicts your whole “modern acupuncture is based on ancient bloodletting rituals” is from 2003. It’s also quite clear, and quite verifiable. He’s not shy with references.

            But if you have a better source than Unschuld for analysing the history of Chinese medicine that supports your ideas, please share. Otherwise, I’d say your bloodletting idea is a good example of “blatently wrong”.

          • 😀
            Your selective reading skills never cease to amaze dear “jm”.
            You keep referring to Unschuld. I guess it is Paul Unschuld, who is rather famous for pissing off acupuncturists and other amateurs oriental medical pantomime for saying something to the effect that traditional Chinese medicine is based on magical philosophy. I am not sure Mr. Unschuld would agree with your interpretation of his interpretation of ancient[sic] Chinese scriptures.
            Instead of spending my morning coffee on finding my notes on this, I asked uncle Google for the term “Unschuld and bloodletting”
            The top hit is a reference to a book:

            “Pricking the Vessels: Bloodletting Therapy in Chinese Medicine”
            By Henry McCann

            Several Passages of this interesting book can be seen in the Google Books preview and they seem to contradict your assertions rather firmly with multiple references to bloodletting from the Huang Di Nei Jing.
            Mr. McCann even refers to Unschuld in this very context.

            Let us see “jm” if you can find item no. 2 in my Google hit-list yourself. It contains this reference to Paul Unschuld:

            […]the Su Wen was not written by a single hand, and it is such a valuable source because it reflects much of the dynamics of the development of Chinese medicine and health care in Chinese antiquity. Many of its treatises recommend bloodletting, and there is also enough acupuncture for treating ailments such as cholera, convulsions, or conceptual diseases such as “heat in the liver.”

            Now I have finished my morning coffee and have to get to work.

            I think you and Mr. Unschuld need to have a talk about the term bloodletting and its relevance to ancient[sic] oriental medicine 😉

          • Wow again Bjorn – two commnets, and two great examples of my point. You should probably reread the Unschuld quotes I pulled for you (they are quite clear about the philosophical change in Chinese medicine):

            http://edzardernst.com/2017/05/is-the-royal-college-of-nursing-promoting-quackery/#comment-102825

            And read the intro to his book:

            https://www.amazon.com/Huang-Nei-Jing-Wen-Translation/dp/0520266986/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1528127387&sr=8-2&keywords=unschuld

            And you should probably talk to acupuncturists about Unschuld. You’ll be surprised – he’s famously quite respected :).

            Oh, and thanks for the book link – there really isn’t enough written about bloodletting. It tends to conjur up images of extremist western bloodletting (like the George Washington example) that folks latch onto if they don’t do any research…and leads them far astray into fantasyland.

          • Tell us dear “jm” what this has to do with aromatic essences and their use?
            And while you’re at it you can write a post of your own where you once and for all tell us what we should read out of your beloved scriptures that justifies your bruise-scraping, needle piercing and suck marking practices.
            We ordinary people only see Unschuld’s and other scholars explanations of how the “doctors” back then admittently knew about such anatomic features of the body as the nose and ears and blood and liver but they had not the faintest idea of their function or interaction and their ministrations were based on philosophy and fantasy, not on knowledge or systematic experience. The translations of old scriptures you refer to tell of piercing and bloodletting with needles and sharp objects. Health care professionals like me naturally conclude, as do any normal people, that this kind of torture and injury must have been terrible and useless. Me calling it “blood-letting rituals” is in a way a nice term, I thought. Your low opinion of this you have not supported with reason or evidence.
            Why don’t you tell us in a little essay why we are wrong? I am sure professor Ernst will be happy to post it on his blog if it is not too long and properly written. Or you could start a blog of your own and invite us all to your enlightening arguments.

            But this post is about aromatic essences and we have strayed off topic. Enough of that here.

          • Bjorn,

            “Tell us dear “jm” what this has to do with aromatic essences and their use?”
            I was going to ask you that. I was replying to Frank – you brought up “quoting ancient scriptures”. Since I’ve never quoted ancient scriptures, I figured you were talking about the Unschuld quote I recently gave you.

            “And while you’re at it you can write a post of your own where you once and for all tell us what we should read out of your beloved scriptures that justifies your bruise-scraping, needle piercing and suck marking practices.”
            I already told you what to read. And provided a link. Twice now… Are you feeling ok? What was in your morning coffee? Or not in your morning coffee?

            Or, you could do some warm up reading – the whole interview that you pulled the “…the Su Wen was not written by a single hand…” quote from. Matthew Bauer’s interview is in two parts – read them both. I think Bauer was one of the acupuncturists on here who tried to steer you in the right direction about the bloodletting thing…

            “We ordinary people…blah blah blah…”
            In which case…you should probably not speculate about what modern acupuncture is based on. Simple. Just stick to modern evidence, problem solved.

            “Why don’t you tell us in a little essay why we are wrong?”
            Or, you could read the beginning comments of Unschuld’s book. Really, the least you could do is 5 minutes of research.

            I’m going to speculate now – since you went from quite certain (you post the bloodletting thing a lot) to “I was just trying to be nice”…maybe you actually read the Unschuld quotes this time. Next you’ll have to read his translation of the actual text. You should have at least a vague understanding of what you’re calling torture and injury.

            A bit more speculation – since you uncharacteristicaly dropped the “rather famous for pissing off acupuncturists”, perhaps you did some googling. 🙂

          • I am starting to think “jm” doesn’t like me – wonder why? 😉

          • I think you’re absolutely adorable, Bjorn. ?

            Next time you feel the bloodletting urge, I think you should either talk about how modern acupuncture has its basis in the Su Wen, the text that “marks the move from shamanistic/animistic medicine to medicine based on natural laws/sciences” (boring).

            Or, talk about “acupuncture in its beginnings was meant as a tool to correct early physiological deviations from a correct course of events, not to treat manifest disease”. (less boring)

            Come to think of it…just change your time frame. All medicine, if you go back far enough, is based on killing or removing the evil spirits that are causing you harm. (exciting!) Totally different than modern medicine (if you discount bacteria, viruses, etc, of course).

          • You are welcome to the last word, But try to make some sense. This comment of yours does not.

          • Try drinking more coffee.

    • I believe the phrase you’re looking for is “that’s their funeral”.

    • @Carol
      Have you ever wondered what is in those oils? It is called ‘chemicals’. Tea trea oil for example contains many similar, poisonous chemicals as paint thinner, thats why they smell simillar. Tea tree oil and lavender oil have been shown to be hormone imitators causing breast enlargement in young boys. This means they are probably cancer enhancing.
      As the oils are poisonous, they kill cells in lab cultures, same as alcohol or thinner, to name a couple of examples. We know alcohol doesn’t work against cancer or have other medical benefits in the human body. Neither do plant oils, AKA “essential” oils. They are essences, not “essential”.

  • Full of erroneous and dangerous claims. I love essential oils, but to state that frankincense is “cytotoxic” and then claim it means it won’t kill healthy cells is utter bulltweet. The very nature of anything cytotoxic is that it is destructive to cells.

  • Gee, I wonder what the dollars and cents value would be of scientific proof that (say, for example, 5) essential oils kill cancer cells? Not a claim, I beg to clarify, merely a musing… (I remember sitting in Hillary Putnam’s William James Seminar and hearing reference to “the cash value of an idea”… Or perhaps the trade would be other than monetary…

  • Personally i would rather be confused and indecisive than dead. I believe.

  • Sceptics please consider this:

    Antitumor Activity of Monoterpenes Found in Essential Oils
    ScientificWorldJournal. 2014; 2014: 953451.
    Published online 2014 Oct 14. doi: 10.1155/2014/953451
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4220615/

    Frankincense essential oil prepared from hydrodistillation of Boswellia sacra gum resins induces human pancreatic cancer cell death in cultures and in a xenograft murine model
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/23237355/?i=10&from=essential%20oil%20cancer%20frankincense

    Essential Oils and Their Constituents as Anticancer Agents: A Mechanistic View
    https://www.hindawi.com/journals/bmri/2014/154106/

    Plenty more where they came from.

    I’m still looking for the study that cites the frequencies of the body mentioned in your original article above, because I have found it before and I have read it myself .. i am certain it was published someime in June 2014 .. but there is no sign of it anywhere now. Perhaps it’s been removed from the medical database because it was attracting too much attention?

    • Sharon, please consider this:
      many plants have anti-cancer activity of some sort. in the vast majority of cases, this does not translate into clinical effectiveness of one reason or another. clinical effectiveness needs to be demonstrated in clinical trials.

      • Yes, it was most likely removed by the FDA/DEA…because they don’t want anyone turning away from their costly drugs, which makes them billions of dollars, while full of dangerous side effects, including death from Chemo!
        Read evidence below:
        https://www.drugwatch.com/featured/big-pharma-marketing/

        • I see that you haven’t found a natural cure for paranoia yet.

        • Until I followed your link I didn’t realise that marketing drugs directly to the public was legal in New Zealand; I certainly never seen it there. Thankfully it is only a problem in one country,
          where the law is heavily in favour of Big Business as opposed to consumers, the environment etc. The rest of the world is rather more sensible.

          Do you have any evidence that the FDA/DEA are remotely interested in that nonsense about frequencies?

    • Sharon,

      The studies you are referring to are all pre-clinical studies in tumour models (mainly standardised cell lines growing in culture and in one case a cell line grafted onto mice specially bred to have no immune system). These are the standard first steps in investigating the possibility that something may prove to be useful in the treatment of cancer. A great many plant-derived substances are found to have some activity in these models. It would be surprising if they didn’t, since plants have evolved all manner of defenses against being eaten or outcompeted by other organisms.

      However, very few agents that show promise in these in vitro studies actually turn out to be useful clinical treatments. Many of them behave quite differently in the body than they do in cell culture, and many of them prove to be too toxic. Approximately 1 in 1,000 of them survive pre-clinical and clinical testing and make it into the clinic. This is a long process that takes 10 – 15 years. I find it very frustrating that so many people are unable to distinguish between what is essentially an idea and what is a safe and effective treatment (this particularly applies to journalists).

      If we look at some of the plant-based (and fungus-based) cancer treatments that we do use in real life we have etoposide (from the May-apple), daunorubicin, mitomycin and bleomycin (from fungi), vincristine, vinblastine and vindesine (from the periwinkle), paclitaxel and docetaxel (from yew), irinotecan and camptothecin (from the Camptotheca tree). These are all in common use, but they have to be given properly in order to work. They all have a narrow therapeutic ratio, which means that if you give slightly too little they don’t work and if you give slightly too much they are dangerously toxic. Scheduling is important – they are usually given as single doses, repeated at intervals of several weeks, and the effect is quite different if this is varied. Many of them have cumulative toxicities which require careful monitoring (daunorubicin can damage the heart, bleomycin can damage the lungs). In general they have to be given intravenously. Some of them can cause extensive tissue damage if they end up in the wrong place.

      A few drops under the tongue or in massage oil are really not going to do the job.

      I’m not even sure why essential oils should be considered in a different category from any other candidate anticancer drug. What they have is common is that they are hydrophobic (i.e. the don’t mix with water), which may cause particular problems with drug delivery, they are volatile (i.e.they readily evaporate) and many of them smell nice. However, there is no particular reason why these properties should be correlated with pharmacological activity.

    • I’m still looking for the study that cites the frequencies of the body mentioned in your original article above, because I have found it before and I have read it myself .. i am certain it was published someime in June 2014 .. but there is no sign of it anywhere now. Perhaps it’s been removed from the medical database because it was attracting too much attention?

      I believe it was Bruce Tainio in 1992. I don’t think it was ever published in the medical literature.

    • Sharon, just Google “Frequencies of the body” to find studies that cite the frequencies of the body.

      You will be greeted with a cornucopia of total guff: hits beyond your best dreams (or worst nightmares) of the consequences of seemingly world-wide lousy science education.

      Or you could read this article as an example of a reasonable, informed, clear scientific account of frequency and its relevance to aspects of health.

      ‘Frequencies’, ‘energy’, ‘quantum’, ‘field’ and many more words have been regularly poached from physics, misapplied to the world of pseudo-medicine, and cause physicists to react on a spectrum from choking with laughter to apoplexy that folk can be so easily duped by sciency-sounding terminology.

  • Essential oils, plant essences, contain various chemicals, which offer therapeutic effects. Dr Jean Valnet and a few other well educated people provided a good body of evidence for essential oils and their uses… Don’t throw away and rubbish something without exploring the subject properly.

  • Every human alive can speak authoritatively about his/her own personal experiences. The bottom line can be summed up in a single question…”Did it work for YOU?” It is really beyond my willingness to care what most people think about something when they speak in complete and abject ignorance of the subject. If a person has never bothered to try essential oils, that person can only speak in ignorance. If a person has never tried frequency treatments, then that person also speaks in ignorance.
    There are many people who have been granted life after trying alternative methods of treatment for cancer and a multitude of other diseases. Do any of you think they give a rat’s butt what you have to say about a treatment that saved their life? I watched helplessly as one of my brothers and one of my sisters died at the hands of a doctor who literally killed them both with radiation and chemotherapy. They died slowly, painfully, and in terrifying agony. Their deaths were so traumatizing to the members of our family that every one of us has decided that should cancer come our way, we will gladly choose alternative methods of treatment rather than the barbaric treatments prescribed by men and women who claim to be medical doctors, who are in fact nothing more than legally sanctioned tormentors and executioners.

    • @PP: “every human alive can speak authoritatively about his/her own personal experiences…” WTF does that mean? Do none of us humans ever lie, convolute, misinterpret or strategically-misstate our “personal experiences” for a myriad of reasons? Oh wait, humans never falsify their “experiences”…that’s been proven through the eons of human history.
      Given how incoherent, inarticulate and jumbled your written expressions are I can only imagine what it must be like to be face-to-face and suffer through your “thoughts” emanating in verbal form. Whew! I shudder to think of it. I’d only pray you had a breath mint.

  • @RG: so no credentials….only your enlightened opinion on all things you only wish you understood.
    But as the saying goes opinions are like armpits, everyone has two and much time and effort is required to keep them from stinking. I’d suggest you investigate the truth of that claim by getting some credentials and seeing if the stench changes.

  • Micheal Kenny

    What type of credentials are sufficient to participate this forum ? Please advise
    I don’t see where EE has imposed any requirements. Who are YOU ?

    I don’t see anybody else being asked for credentials, why me ? Cuz you don’t like what I say, that’s why.

  • This might be of interest to some of the more open minded readers of this thread.
    Regarding the use of essential oils as an adjunct to chemotherapy and radiation.
    We all have to find our own path. Life is precious.
    https://naturallivingfamily.com/essential-oils-for-cancer/

    • Other than an advert on the website of a chiro who ‘specializes in Aromatherapy and Biblical Health’ and a ‘group fitness and martial arts instructor, health coach, lactation consultant, and a natural health guru’, and some unverified and unverifiable anecdotes, do you have anything that would convince anyone with a brain?

    • This Web site is a good example of how not to interpret biomedical papers.

      An in-vitro study suggesting a possible method of action can form the basis of further research, but cannot in any way support a recommendation for treatment. Safety and efficacy studies and randomised clinical trials are required, and only a fraction of a percentage of promising treatment candidates manage to get through those.

      The site has apparently been fact-checked and reviewed by a qualified medical practitioner, and my guess is that his input has been in advising on how best to use misleading wording to deceive readers untrained in biomedical science (or in critical thinking generally) without actually making claims that are illegal.

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