MD, PhD, FMedSci, FRSB, FRCP, FRCPEd.

This article from AP News caught my attention. Here it is (I haven’t changed a word):

The flashy postcard, covered with images of syringes, beckoned people to attend Vax-Con ’21 to learn “the uncensored truth” about COVID-19 vaccines.

Participants traveled from around the country to a Wisconsin Dells resort for a sold-out convention that was, in fact, a sea of misinformation and conspiracy theories about vaccines and the pandemic. The featured speaker was the anti-vaccine activist who appeared in the 2020 movie “Plandemic,” which pushed false COVID-19 stories into the mainstream. One session after another discussed bogus claims about the health dangers of mask wearing and vaccines.

The convention was organized by members of a profession that has become a major purveyor of vaccine misinformation during the pandemic: chiropractors.

At a time when the surgeon general says misinformation has become an urgent threat to public health, an investigation by The Associated Press found a vocal and influential group of chiropractors has been capitalizing on the pandemic by sowing fear and mistrust of vaccines.

They have touted their supplements as alternatives to vaccines, written doctor’s notes to allow patients to get out of mask and immunization mandates, donated large sums of money to anti-vaccine organizations and sold anti-vaccine ads on Facebook and Instagram, the AP discovered. One chiropractor gave thousands of dollars to a Super PAC that hosted an anti-vaccine, pro-Donald Trump rally near the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6.

They have also been the leading force behind anti-vaccine events like the one in Wisconsin, where hundreds of chiropractors from across the U.S. shelled out $299 or more to attend. The AP found chiropractors were allowed to earn continuing education credits to maintain their licenses in at least 10 states.

On this blog, I have often discussed that chiropractors tend to be anti-vax. It all goes back to their founding father, DD Palmer, who famously wrote:

  • Vaccination and inoculation are pathological; chiropractic is physiological,
  • and who in 1894, published his views on smallpox vaccination: ‘…the monstrous delusion … fastened on us by the medical profession, enforced by the state boards, and supported by the mass of unthinking people …’
  • and who stated in 1896 that keeping tissue healthy is therefore the best prevention against infections; and this is best achieved by magnetic healing.

But that’s long ago! We are not like that anymore! … say the chiros of today.

Do you believe them?

If so, you might want to read this article by Jann Bellamy. Or alternatively, just look at some of my finds from the Internet:

 

 

 

57 Responses to “The uncensored truth” about COVID-19 vaccines” … as told by some chiro loons

  • Oh there was stuff on the ten o’clock news last night and in a ‘vox pops’ piece in America, some young woman was voicing off about her God-given immune system, and I had to change the channel. Even from a Christiaan theology point of view, completely wrong (but I won’t go into that here).

    They speak from the luxurious position of being in a generation, and a country, that doesn’t lose lots of children to polio, smallpox, diptheria, whooping cough and tuberculosis. Thanks to large-scale vaccination.

    • that’s a polite way of expressing it; one could also say THEY SPEAK FROM THEIR ARSE.

    • “Thanks to large-scale vaccination.”

      Narcissists are physiologically incapable of counting beyond One.

      • In today’s (Saturday) edition of the “i” newspaper on Page 25, there is a super Opinion article by guest columnist Professor Jim Al-Khalili, my favourite science presenter, entitled “Those who are talking loudest about science know the least”. He cites the Dunning-Kruger effect, in a piece written with style and vigour.

    • My parents come from a generation where everyone knew someone who had polio and had to walk on crutches for the rest of their lives or, in the worst case, had to rely on the iron lung.

      The corona deniers lack this experience otherwise they would talk quite differently about the vaccinantion.

      • Yes, that’s what I was getting at. I am old enough (b.1957) to have seen people (one was a family friend) with a leg brace due to polio.

        • I am in my early 40s and I grew up in India during the 80s and 90s. I remember several kids in our school with leg braces. Back then it is a very common to come across someone with polio when you are walking on the street. Govt used to constantly run PSAs on TV that showed children disabled with polio and urging parents to vaccinate their kids.

  • With this kind of fallacious reasoning, it’s only a relatively short step to the “Breatharianism” of Ellen Greve, aka ‘Jasmuheen’.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasmuheen

  • Saying
    “I don’t need vaccines because I trust my immune system”
    is like saying
    “I don’t need education because I trust my brain”

    (I believe this one can be credited to Gert van Dijk”)

  • Also from the article:

    “ The purveyors of vaccine misinformation represent a small but vocal minority of the nation’s 70,000 chiropractors, many of whom advocate for vaccines.”

    “… which says he is among the small group of people responsible for nearly two-thirds of anti-vaccine content online.”

    • “The purveyors of vaccine misinformation represent a small but vocal minority of the nation’s 70,000 chiropractors, many of whom advocate for vaccines.”

      OK. And what are all those pro-vaccine chiros doing to get rid of the quacks in their midst? About as much as mainstream medicine does to get rid of its, I’ll wager; i.e. nowhere near enough. Foxes, henhouses, etc.

      “… which says he is among the small group of people responsible for nearly two-thirds of anti-vaccine content online.”

      In other words, the amount of damage they do is proportionally far greater than just their raw numbers. All the more reason to strip them of accreditation and run them clear out of town.

      Look, everyone does apologetics, mainstream medicine included. And then it’s back to business as always, because nothing ever gets changed. Here’s a golden opportunity for your non-Palmerite wing to score big points over conventional docs for once, by properly cleaning out your own house first. Let us know how it works out.

      • Hear! Hear!

      • Apologetics?

        My post merely pointed out a few things Ernst left out….this is a vocal minority.

        How to stop it is a complex issue of which I doubt anyone here is part of the solution.

        • It is a vocal minority that is very loudly making your whole profession look garbage. But hey. Do something, do nothing; it’s no skin off my nose either way you go.

          Just don’t cry “But-but-but” while simultaneously declaring “it’s too hard to solve”. If you can’t solve it, either it’s because your self-regulation isn’t worth the paper it’s printed on or because your whole system is working exactly as designed. Either way, that’s on you. Don’t get whiny when other people point out your profession puts itself above patients, after you didn’t even have the courage to tell them yourself first.

          • If you have a problem with me pointing out this is a vocal minority, that’s not my problem.

          • Once again, it’s not my profession they are dragging down with them. And if you are happy to let them do so, that’s fine by me too. The sooner that those who genuinely care for patients go be physios, the sooner chiropractic can be the exclusive playground for Palmer’s quacks, and never the twain confused again by the general public. It’s a win either way.

  • Speaking of covid-19 vaccines, I found this story to be interesting. If 80% vaccine rates are not sufficient… what’s the needed number ?

    https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/jump-in-singapore-covid-19-cases-despite-80-per-cent-vaccination/ar-AAOTum2

    • it means the 20% of idiotic anti-vaxxers need to get vaccinated

      • That 20% is not all anti-vaxxers though. Some fraction of that will be children (since their vaccine trials were done last), some will be people who cannot be vaccinated for other medical reasons, and some will be the people who are bottom of the pile for everything (the disadvantaged). And let’s not forget the millions more who cannot be vaccinated because they are already dead; killed, directly and indirectly, by this rotten disease.

        None of whom deserve to be lumped in with that social contagion.

      • Not all in the 20% not vaccinated group will be anti-vaxxers, vaccine hesitancy is a different beast. We must be careful not to call all those not yet vaccinated idiots- they will never change their minds if we offend and belittle instead of listen, understand (people’s fears and anxieties) and patiently explain (again!). To do the former risks them truly becoming anti-vaxxers.

        • “vaccine hesitancy is a different beast”

          OK. Perhaps we call it a neurosis instead?

          And while you are not wrong about any of this, it does get tiring after a while to keep on hearing how we need to understand their concerns and points of view; yet not that they should work to understand ours.

          And, how do you think we feel when a malignant manipulator feigns harmless neurotic in order to make us run ourselves ragged providing them every answer and benefit of the doubt, even as their malicious JAQ-ing and true agenda starts to reveal itself after a while, after that mask begins to slip. Take “Bart”, for example; do you think he’s an honest actor here, or an abuser playing us for fools? It is exhausting and demoralizing to get burned and burned again, and then to be lectured about our poor attitude is just the capper on that.

          Empathy and understanding is a two-way street.

          One more thing: it is not hard for us rationalists to step into their shoes and walk around in them; all we do is turn off the training we’ve had in how to think analytically and self-check and self-correct, and revert to being the irrational animals that we all are by default. Whereas irrational thinkers have either never learned to think rationally and self-critically, or learned to do it at one time how but have subsequently made the choice to abandon it (looking at you, Montagnier). Thus while it is easy for us to mentally model their motivations and perspective, it is hard-to-impossible for them to mentally model ours; even as they are absolutely convinced that they understand us better than we understand them.

          But, of course, I’m just a callous murdering Pharma Shill so none of that counts. Dang, busted again.

    • Terrific technology, search engines. Enter a few choice keywords, and ker-pow! I quickly found some recent discussion here:

      https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20210803/delta-variant-could-drive-herd-immunity-threshold-over-80

      TL;DR: The exact threshold for achieving herd immunity against SARS-CoV-2 isn’t yet known, but may well be ≥90% thanks to delta’s greater infectiousness. (For comparison: polio requires >80%, measles requires >95%.)

      It should also go without saying that we need to achieve it worldwide, as soon as we can. The more places where the virus still runs rampant, the more opportunities that creates for new, even more infectious, strains to evolve; pushing us back still further.

      (In a good and just world, spoiled pampered westerners shrieking about 5G microchips would all be shipped off to Somalia and the DRC, there for nature to take its course. Alas, here we are.)

    • Bart,

      The proportion of people that need to be immune to an infectious disease in order to prevent the numbers growing exponentially is one minus the reciprocal of R0, which is the number of people each case goes on to infect in the absence of any immunity. R0 is the baseline measurement of infectivity, and the current infectivity (i.e. the number of people that each case infects when all real-life measures are taken into account) is simply R.

      So for measles, for instance, R0 is 20 (i.e. each case infects 20 others) so 1-0.05 = 95% need to be vaccinated.

      At the start of the pandemic, R0 (for the alpha variant) was about 3, so it was estimated that 65 – 70% would have needed to be vaccinated had there been a vaccine available at the time. However, the delta variant, which is currently responsible for the majority of infections, is estimated to have an R0 of about 8 or 9, which equates to about 88 – 90% immunity.

      Unfortunately the current vaccines to not give 100% protection against being infected, though they are very effective and preventing severe illness and death. There are various estimates, which I suppose depend on exactly what is being measured and in what population (and how recently they were vaccinated), but I understand that they give around 70 – 80% protection against infection. A quick calculation therefore tells us that even if everyone were vaccinated, that would not on its own be enough to end the pandemic.

      Of course other measures, such as hand-washing, social distancing, mask-wearing, isolation of individuals with confirmed infection etc., all reduce the risk of transmission, and combined with vaccination they can bring R below 1.

      The worry is that the more widely the virus is allowed to circulate, particularly in an unvaccinated population, the greater the chance of an even more infectious variant emerging. This is one reason why organisations such as the WHO are so keen for rich countries to donate their surplus vaccine supplies to those who have none, rather than using them to give a booster to people who are unlikely to die if they become infected, or simply keeping them “just in case” until they go out of date.

  • They don’t notice the contradiction that you supposedly don’t need to make a corporation profit because you have an immune system but in the same breath they say you need to make another corporation profit to ‘optimise’ your immune system.
    No thanks, I don’t need your quack remedies, I have an immune system.
    Sadly people are going to have to learn this the hard way ☹️

    • Every person who ever died of an infectious disease – Spanish Flu, Diptheria, Smallpox, Polio etc etc, had an immune system. Sadly they became too dead to learn.

      • Dr. Julian

        Thanks so much, that was an excellent reply, I appreciate that much more than the blog moderators response to me.

        My response to both you and John is this;
        The “idiots” that don’t want the vaccine the professor speaks of may well consist of a large percentage of persons that already suffered through the covid virus and survived. Some (perhaps a large percentage) of these patients will argue that their immunity is superior to vaccine immunity…. and justly so. So yes, the immune system has ligetimacy when you consider those that have already survived the virus. It has been shown that antibodies are equal or superior to vaccines. We have also witnessed that the vaccine efficacy is lasting as little as three months before trailing off, and requiring booster jabs. So without mandates, it is not likely that any State is capable of vaccine rates over 90%, in my view.
        Mandates are coming, it’s just a mater of time.

        In response to David B
        Not all infectious diseases are created equal. The listed diseases had much higher mortality or injury rates than covid. Not an apples to apples to comparison.

        • “It has been shown that antibodies are equal or superior to vaccines.”
          1 ) Vaccines generate antibodies.
          2) Can you produce evidence for this statement?
          3 ) I don’t think it is true.

        • Bart,

          Some (perhaps a large percentage) of these patients will argue that their immunity is superior to vaccine immunity…. and justly so.

          They will be arguing from opinion, though, not data.

          So yes, the immune system has ligetimacy when you consider those that have already survived the virus. It has been shown that antibodies are equal or superior to vaccines.

          I am not sure what you mean by this, and from the sound of it I don’t think you do, either.

          The vaccines work by stimulating the immune system to provoke a response that is then protective against infection with the virus itself. This involves the production of antibodies, but also stimulation of B cells and T cells. The aim is to give comparable protection to that which comes from having survived the infection, but without the associated risks.

          It seems that immunity resulting from vaccination, like the immunity from the infection, wanes with time, but further doses of the vaccine will stimulate it again, either as a second (or third) vaccine dose or as vaccination following infection. The current advice therefore (at least in the UK) is that the vaccine should still be given to people who have recovered from Covid.

          Every person who ever died of an infectious disease – Spanish Flu, Diptheria, Smallpox, Polio etc etc, had an immune system.

          The listed diseases had much higher mortality or injury rates than covid. Not an apples to apples to comparison.

          I’m not sure that is entirely relevant, as Covid has still managed to kill 4.55 million people worldwide so far, and 138,000 in the UK, where I live, including friends and relatives of mine who otherwise had many healthy years to look forward to.

          Smallpox, of course, has been completely eradicated by vaccination, one of only two diseases of which that can be said (the other is rinderpest, a virus infection of livestock that is related to measles). I have never seen a case of diphtheria in 30 years of medical practice. Polio is now very rare, again as a result of vaccination, though I knew several people with leg braces when I was at primary school, and my uncle was crippled by it, though not as badly as the many beggers that I have seen when travelling through India. However, most people survived polio with nothing more than a flu-like illness and the mortality rate is lower than for covid; in your view does this mean that the campaign to eliminate it was not necessary?

          Epidemiologists tell us that it is inevitable that we will have another pandemic along the lines of Spanish flu, and it is just a matter of time, and how prepared we are for it. Covid was not the first and it won’t be the last.

          The interplay between infections and the immune system is very complex. Many fatalities in covid are as a result of an inappropriate overreaction of the immune system which the coronavirus provokes. Measles, on the other hand, wipes out the immune memory for infections previously encountered, with a consequent increase in mortality over the following five years or so from other infections.

          So without mandates, it is not likely that any State is capable of vaccine rates over 90%, in my view.
          Mandates are coming, it’s just a mater of time.

          It is not at all clear that this is the most effective way of maximising infection rates, though politicians tend to implement policies that they think will be popular rather than effective.

          Regardless, while vaccination is an essential tool in the fight against the pandemic, and is very effective at reducing tnhe severity of infection (more effectiive han it is at preventing infection in the first place), it is clear that on its own it will not be enough to end the pandemic, and there is little prospect of eradicating SARS-Cov-2 altogether.

          • What I find interesting is this:

            In the beginning it was masks, social distance and hand washing. Now that the vaccine is available all I hear is masks and vaccine.

            If the goal is to end the pandemic shouldn’t they also continue to strongly recommend social distancing and hand washing until the Pandemic is over?

          • DC,

            I said:

            Of course other measures, such as hand-washing, social distancing, mask-wearing, isolation of individuals with confirmed infection etc., all reduce the risk of transmission, and combined with vaccination they can bring R below 1.

            You replied:

            In the beginning it was masks, social distance and hand washing. Now that the vaccine is available all I hear is masks and vaccine.

            What conclusion do you expect people to draw from that?

          • @DC: All of these measures are still recommended, and those recommendations are easy enough to find if you look for them.

            Therefore, two possible explanations:

            1. Washing and distancing are still being mentioned after vaccination and masking, but your brain only retains the first two things it hears.

            2. Popular media messaging has been deliberately narrowed to focus public attention on the two things that have by far the biggest effect.

            Whichever it is, it points to the same, very human, limitation. People are a lot better at remembering two things than they are at remembering lots of things; and people will quickly switch off entirely if recited long or inconsistent lists.

            It’s not ideal, but it is pragmatic. You work with the human beings you’ve got, not the human beings you wish you had. Maybe in another million years, as long as we survive that far. 🙂

          • What conclusion do you expect people to draw from that?

            That masks and vaccines are good enough.

          • @DC: “That masks and vaccines are good enough.”

            It is less than ideal, but if that is the most that the public is willing to do then it will have to be. Considering large clods of America not only proudly refuse to do even that much, but take great delight in being utterly appalling to everyone else about it too, even that will be no easy achievement.

            There is a reason I say all these anti-vaxxers and anti-maskers deserve to be shipped off to the DRC or Somalia. The disgusting poisonous brats have absolutely no idea how fabulously privileged they all are; a year spent living as the bottom billion of humanity must do would either educate them or remove them from our gene pool entirely. Win-win. Sorry, but I have no tolerance left for such people at all.

          • has: It is less than ideal, but if that is the most that the public is willing to do then it will have to be.

            I don’t know if that is the most they are willing to do.

            But I can say that the conversations that I have had with people that aren’t vaccinated is that most are confused and frustrated over the topic. The reasons are variable.

            Some here and elsewhere want to totally blame the leaders of the anti-vax movement, and they do hold their share of the blame. However, I think the mixing of science with politics has left some with questions that haven’t been answered. These are more appropriately labeled as vaccine-hesitant and that is more of a lack of trust of politicians (speaking of the USA)

          • @DC

            Speaking of the USA, lack of trust in politicians and the government in general is an intrinsic characteristic of a large subset of American society that existed long before this pandemic started. Anti-vax leaders like Kirsch take advantage of that to push their agenda and misinformation, and you wonder why the anti-vaxxers are confused and frustrated about the topic…

  • gotcha sir

    Full steam ahead, 100%, here we come.

  • Here is an MIT scientist’s team’s analysis of the statistics showing 200k deaths in the USA
    https://rumble.com/embed/vjm4tu/?pub=4

    • Thanks for the link. It’s long, but worth a listen.

      • @Bart
        No, it is not worth a listen. Kirsch is a business person who has no education or knowledge in the field of medicine, immunology or statistics, yet makes the most outrageous claims about Covid-19 and Covid-19 vaccination.
        Also note that at first he merely said that Covid-19 vaccines didn’t work and caused infertility, but quickly escalated his claims to include ever more severe effects, and now he says that it kills hundreds of thousands of people. By Christmas, he will probably claim that half of all Americans have died from Covid-19 vaccination.

        The following is a list of all the peer-reviewed research on which his conclusions and claims are based:
        https://rationalwiki.org/w/images/2/2f/Tumbleweed.gif

        And here a similar claim about ‘vaccine deaths’ is debunked: https://www.covid-datascience.com/post/evaluating-claim-in-peer-reviewed-toxicology-reports-article-vaccines-kill-5-for-every-1-save

        It is quite simple: the total number of deaths was lowest during the peak in vaccinations, and for months thereafter. Also note that these vaccinations were largely administered to the weak and elderly during this period. So if these vulnerable people all survived vaccination, then when did all those claimed ‘vaccination deaths’ happen? Answer: they didn’t.
        Also note that for the past few months, almost all excess deaths are among unvaccinated people.

      • Meh. If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything. Especially if the data is low quality to begin with, and the conclusion already known. And as for the method of reporting, instantly suspect.

        For some reason, Alties have no problem accepting that Big Pharma will say and do absolutely anything for power and money. And yet, when it’s one of their own, telling them just what they like to hear, that possibility isn’t even considered. Why is that, do you think?

        After all, 200K US in 9 months deaths is 10% of the normal annual (pre-COVID) US death rate, which is a number of dead people large enough to be very hard to disguise or miss. So for some random internet schlub selling product to detect these 200K excess deaths not caused by COVID, while governments, NGOs, healthcare professionals, epidemiologists, et al say nothing about it, means that either someone is incredibly blind and stupid, or someone is lying to themselves and/or others.

        So, first things first: please find the 200K excess US deaths in 2021 which do not track COVID infection rates. e.g. States where infections have gone down (a lot), yet deaths have gone up (a lot). If you are unable to find this, don’t worry: hardcore “Depopulation Agenda” believers will rationalize it simply by claiming the reported infection statistics are fabricated to be whatever “They” need them to be. But at least by making that initial effort, it proves to us that you’ve done your basic due dilligence, for yourself, to the best of your lay abilities: a rudimentary “sniff test”, or “Does this story smell fishy to me?”

        That evidence of action, regardless of outcome, indicates you’re open to evidence and reason, and changing your mind when mistakes are detected or better information comes along. (Unlike Roger, who has never yet met a quack nostrum or conspiracy theory he won’t happily shill as “The Absolute Truth”. Even while half of them mutually contradict the other half.)

        ’Cos if you aren’t prepared to do your own homework, then why should we? And we can proceed accordingly.

      • Good dissections. And I LOLed at the line “[Kirsch] starts his presentation by claiming “I have no conflicts.”” That statement alone lands his credibilty in the sewer.

        BTW, early on in the public vaccination program, we should expect to see greater-than-average non-COVID deaths in the newly vaccinated portion of the population, simply because the people who got vaccinated first are the elderly and the medically vulnerable, i.e. people who are a lot likely to die sooner than the rest of us anyway, regardless of vaccination status. You cannot extrapolate from that very atypical section of the population to the population as a whole; and anyone who does is either a fool or has something to sell you. What matters is whether those greater-than-average deaths are in line with the greater-than-average deaths that you’d expect to see within that same sub-population every other year, and I’m willing to bet that when the raw numbers are controlled for that any “bump” disappears.

        Related: self-selection bias, Texas sharpshooter fallacy.

      • Another telling line:

        Thus, to compute the number of “excess deaths” purportedly caused by vaccines, [Kirsch] subtracts off an estimate of background deaths (500) and multiplies by the assumed underreporting rate (URR) (41x).

        Which is to say, everything he says is built atop guesses.

        And while there nothing inherently wrong with using guesses in formulating a hypothesis, to jump straight from that guesswork to declaring “vaccines have killed 200K Americans” without even stopping first to test if his guesses are any good or total crap, is somewhere between criminally incompetent and criminally malicious.

        And to discover he has done exactly that, says everything we need to know about the trustworthiness of the man and the credibility of his arguments. But SOP for COVID grifters as long as there’s voracious rubes like Roger to gobble it all up and ask for more.

      • And the lulz keep rolling in…

        https://theintercept.com/2021/09/28/covid-telehealth-hydroxychloroquine-ivermectin-hacked/

        The level of grift is both shocking and shameless, yet almost entirely unsurprising by now. MLMs and Ponzi schemes must appear tired old also-rans in comparison. And all incredibly obvious and transparent too. Which further suggests that their success comes not because they fool Roger and his ilk but because Roger and his ilk want to be fooled; and all they are doing is providing that service.

        I wonder perhaps if the final key to beating COVID will not be immunologists, but psychopathologists. Sad.

  • Then Richard, I don’t think you didn’t listen to the presentation.

    You don’t need to have specific qualifications to use evidence produced by other professionals and compile a presentation.

    • Then Richard, I don’t think you didn’t listen to the presentation.

      No, indeed I didn’t waste my precious time on this because I KNOW what the man says. Kirsch is most certainly NOT part of a ‘MIT scientists team’, but a bullshit-spouting fool, and any ‘evidence’ that he comes up with regard to Covid-19 consists of fabrications, lies, misinformation and conspiracy crap. His dumb blather is not worth spending even a minute on, let alone more than two hours.

      • Ahhhh yes
        Now I know the official standard.
        MIT Scientists team…. lol
        OK, now I know, thanks.

        • Careful, kid. Your mask just slipped.

          And Kirsch is still an arrogant ass who pulled his figures right out of it, and his Humpty Dumpty math isn’t worth the chip wrapper it’s written on. Dude didn’t just cook the numbers, he set them on five-alarm fire. Shame on anyone who propagates that; there is no excuse.

    • Nor do you need specific qualifications to fabricate the numbers from which you draw your conclusions, though I’m sure it would be helpful in covering up your malfeasance. Fortunately, Kirsch is not that sophisticated, which is why his fabrication is so quickly revealed by others. Perhaps if you looked for more than just confirmation bias, you’d save yourself a lot of time.

      • Related: And yet more evidence of anti-vaxxers sending their best. From a (R) candidate for next Texas governor (emphasis mine):

        5/ I can attest that, after this experience, I am even more dedicated to fighting against vaccine mandates. Instead of enriching the pockets of Big Pharma and corrupt bureaucrats and politicians, we should be advocating the monoclonal antibody infusion therapy.

        Currently getting ratioed all to hell by everybody and their mother pointing out to this… potatoe that a monoclonal antibody treatment is $2000 (versus a $20 vaccine) and is 100% owned, manufactured, and sold by—you guessed it—Big Pharma.

        And what are the odds that this will even slow them down? LOL, as if I’d be fool enough to take that bet. There’s a reason Las Vegas is the size it is.

      • * Bonus fact: The CEO of Regeneron, which makes and sells monoclonal antibody therapy, is a member of Trump’s golf club, and it was one of the treatments specially given to Trump when he got himself hospitalized with COVID last year.

        “Enriching the pockets of Big Pharma and corrupt bureaucrats and politicians”? Indeed.

      • Vaccine misinformation is of course nothing new and actually goes back to the first vaccination, the controversy being beautifully depicted in the famous, glorious cartoon by Gillray (see link below).

        Vaccinated literally means cow-ised. I’ve had my two cow-isings for Covid, and will jump at it as and when a booster is offered. I also had a cow-ising for flu for the first time last winter, and intend to get cow-ised for it this winter too.
        https://www.themorgan.org/blog/cow-pock-or-wonderful-effects-new-inoculation

    • Here’s a good, balanced article describing how Steve Kirsch went from being a successful entrepreneur to full antivaxx loony: https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/10/05/1036408/silicon-valley-millionaire-steve-kirsch-covid-vaccine-misinformation/

      It’s the classic tale of someone seriously overstepping their area competence to promulgate a newly acquired belief, completely blind to their own flawed reasoning and lacunas in their knowledge.

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