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by Edzard - Monday 21 August 2017 21:09
no! it is not the question at all - it is your question. why don't you look him up before you make a fuzz?
by Greg - Monday 21 August 2017 19:23
In some countries (UK), you don't need a qualification in homeopathy to be a homeopath (this has been discussed in the past with Alan and Simon). So, you can be a 'homeopath' if you live in the UK and you wanted to be one. The question here is what are Bjorn's medical qualifications as this is pertinent to his regular provision of medical commentary on this site ('It has been my job for decades to do these things'). It is an easy question for him to answer but he does not answer it.
by Edzard - Monday 21 August 2017 15:21
by Greg - Monday 21 August 2017 15:16
Bjorn: See above: 'Mr. Epstein. You proudly decorate yourself with the “Dr.” title but your epistemic performance indicates there is hardly any (real) knowledge of medicine, biology or physiology behind it. Whatever you learnt in chiro-school has not left a working understanding of how living tissue functions and reacts to external influence. The mentors and “researchers” you refer to, seem just as delusional. You go on about tissue behaving like Play-Doh putty. That is plain and simply not how tissue behaves. James has (on Thursday 17 August 2017 at 12:58) further elaborated in support of my explanation of this. I do not have to add anything to his thorough exposé. James has, as I also tried to do, also explained that the normalisation of the cervical lordosis over time is to be expected as a result of physiological recovery from injury/dysfunction. It is not and cannot be a result of the silly theatricals resulting in imagined ligament lengthening through intermittent, minor mechanical influence. I have alredy explained how and why I have the education and experience to say this. It has been my job for decades to know these things.' Bjorn, you don't answer a straightforward question: where did you train as a medical surgeon and on which register are/were you?
by Barrie Lee 'Wellness' Thorpe - Monday 21 August 2017 14:03
Greg- What would 'training' or "qualifications' in homeopathy consist of? What qualifications are needed to become an expert in mumbo jumbo? A few years agoI stood behind a young woman in a newsagent's who was holding such a 'qualification'" which she was waiting to have photocopied( and, afterwards, framed, I expect). It said 'This is to certify that( (name) has successfully passed an examination in aromatherapy'. Is that the type of thing you're talking about?
by Björn Geir - Monday 21 August 2017 13:53
There is a limit to how much fun a cat can have from playing with a mouse, especially when that mouse has no talent for the game. The title of this blog post is "Is chiropractic subluxation a notion of the past? SADLY NOT!" I think Edzard has shown great patience by allowing you to rant and rave about unrelated topics, rather no topic at all. I am guilty of encouraging this folly by playing the role of a cat 🙂 It is time to stop. You grandiously demand respect but show little yourself. You boastfully demand answers to your questions but answer close to none yourself. You haughtily demand that I inform of my credentials but give none yourself. My professional information is so easily found that it must take either lack of education above preschool or a significant mental handicap to avoid finding it. As I said before, you can ask the librarian in your village to help you with the search. I am not going to humour you by revealing the one single link you need to find the information about me that you are asking for. Let's see if a last little hint will help you solve your embarrasing predicament: On this very page you can find a feature that can click on and open a page to an outside resource. On the page that opens you will find this link to my profile 😉
by Greg - Monday 21 August 2017 08:13
Waw Bjorn, you want to be asked 'nicely' but you have recently 'apologised' for your 'sarcastic heckling' of commenters that believe in alternative medicine. It fits the picture.
by Greg - Monday 21 August 2017 08:08
Edzard, is it taking your brain some time to think through my previous comment that you have not yet posted? It is true though, isn't it: that you have effectively been let go twice from jobs involving 'complementary medicine'? This one you called: fired 1. http://edzardernst.com/2013/03/ive-been-fired/ 2. University of Exeter post as Professor of Complimentary Medicine, you called: RETIRED https://www.timeshighereducation.com/news/research/research-intelligence-alternative-outcomes/416567.article?sectioncode=26&storycode=416567&c=1 What a sad way to go, after all the work you did.
by Greg - Monday 21 August 2017 07:38
Dr. Ernst: Considering your background, and averring for several years to be 'expert' in all sorts of health practices that you are not qualified in is funny. Have you forgotten that you were fired from your post http://edzardernst.com/2013/03/ive-been-fired/) and that you were terminated in your post as 'Professor of Complementary Medicine'? As I have said before, the primary element of this blog is the humour that arises from reading stuff you and Bjorn write (Bjorn's 'sarcastic heckling' is excessive in my view, his discussions with John are something to read), but there is an educational element as well: you are not educated in the topics you are discussing here. Is Edzard a Walter Mitty type 'professor'?
by Björn Geir - Monday 21 August 2017 06:59
If "Greg" had asked nicely I might have given a few more hints. When "Greg" has given its full confirmable credentials and CV, I promise I will provide the (easily found) link to my whole profile including publication list. 🤣
by UK Homeopathy Regulation - Monday 21 August 2017 19:34
I thought he was a hobo.
by Barrie Lee 'Wellness' Thorpe - Monday 21 August 2017 13:18
When I typed a spoof Trump email a couple of days ago, Spellcheck changed 'bigly" to 'bigot'.
by compandalt - Monday 21 August 2017 09:17
When I type "larry malerba" into google, the next word it suggests is "quack". Enough said.
by Norbert Aust - Sunday 20 August 2017 13:07
Oh you lucky skeptical bastards in the US! Over here in Germany we critics of homeopathy are in trouble: Big Pharma won't pay us! The two major societies of "Big Pharma" in Germany, the BPI ("Bundesverband der Pharmazeutischen Industrie") and BAH (Bundesverband der Arzneimittelhersteller") expressed their opposition to dropping the law that requires homeopathic remedies to be sold in pharmacies only. Furthermore they insist on public health to cover homeopathic treatments. See here: http://www.pharma-relations.de/news/bpi-und-bah-aeussern-sich-pro-homoeopathie https://www.deutsche-apotheker-zeitung.de/news/artikel/2017/06/20/pharmaverband-verteidigt-homoeopathie (both in German)
by Richard Rawlins - Sunday 20 August 2017 10:25
Larry Malerba is an osteopath, not a doctor of medicine.
by Kevin - Monday 21 August 2017 19:33
I tracked down one of the pictures on the net (the one showing a lot of white pills and the caption 'acute rescue'), because my brother is a paramedic and I thought he ought to be carrying some of these homeopathic pills for acute emergencies 😉 Anyway clicking on it took me to a homeopathy site featuring a video titled 'Homeopathic cure of paralysed rottweiler'. Ludicrous claptrap!
by Edzard - Monday 21 August 2017 15:19
by CG DVM - Monday 21 August 2017 14:46
"Systematic review counters argument of ‘no reliable evidence’ in veterinary homeopathy 21st October 2014" "Scottish parliamentary event promotes homeopathy as an alternative to antibiotics in farm animals On 14 March 2012, Jim Eadie MSP and the British Homeopathic Association hosted an event at the Scottish Parliament to raise awareness of the role homeopathy could play in cleaning up the food chain by replacing, and therefore reducing, the use of antibiotics. More Shelley Epstein VMD gives landmark speech at BAHVS Conference 2011 - the conference of the British Association of Homeopathic Veterinary Surgeons hosted discussion of Evidence Based Medicine, a topic that as understood by the conventional lobby holds more weight in its name than it does in it’s argument. More Nobel Laureate gives Homeopathy a boost the French virologist Luc Montagnier stunned his colleagues at a prestigious international conference when he presented a new method for detecting viral infections that bore close parallels to the basic tenets of homeopathy. More and as a result has had to flee “intellectual terror” to pursue his ideas in China More Evidence Check Report on Homeopathy considered flawed by MPs and dismissed by Government On February 22nd 2010 the UK Parliament’s Science and Technology Committee published an ‘evidence check’ report on homeopathy. The main purpose of the committee’s work leading up to the report had been to investigate government spending on homeopathy through the National Health Service (NHS) and the licensing of homeopathic products through the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency (MHRA). The report, approved by only three of the committee members, was largely negative towards homeopathy, and has been referred to extensively by anti-homeopathy campaigners. However, many Members of Parliament and the Governments’ Department of Health itself expressed serious concerns about both the approach taken and the recommendations made in the report. Most importantly, the Government itself rejected the recommendations of the report and endorsed a patient’s right to continue to access homeopathy on the NHS. For more info click Here from: http://homeopathicvet.org/Veterinary_Research_into_Homeopathy/Welcome.html http://homeopathicvet.org/Veterinary_Research_into_Homeopathy/Welcome.html "Homeopathic silica was prescribed because of the history of bone problems and to help promote drainage. Discharging lesions are seen in some cancer cases as they resolve, and should be allowed to drain if they present no discomfort to the animal." from: https://animalwellnessmagazine.com/cancer-alternative-therapies/ http://www.civtedu.org/steve-marsden-webinars/ "SHOW ME GOOD EVIDENCE FOR THE CLAIMS MADE BELOW, AND I WILL SEND YOU A FREE COPY OF MY RECENT BOOK ON THE SUBJECT." "And I’ll send them a copy of my ‘Real Secrets of Alternative Medicine’, " does this at least qualify me for an "e-edition" ?
by jrkrideau - Monday 21 August 2017 12:13
Well, not a bad exhibition but I don't think it is up to the standards of your "Chiropractic for kids: a pack of offensive lies" show. Still most of these pictures seem to show the same type of delusion.
by Richard Rawlins - Monday 21 August 2017 10:42
And I'll send them a copy of my 'Real Secrets of Alternative Medicine', suggesting particular attention to chapter 10, but do read the rest for context. Come on all other esteemed authors, show some largesse to those in need.
by Richard Rawlins - Monday 21 August 2017 18:02
If only...but, never was, never will be. Those who want to join the medical profession should do so, or one of the other much respected health care professions, or accept they are 'alternative'. That is how standards are maintained and improved.
by Michael Kenny - Monday 21 August 2017 16:43
The notion of a "critical Chiro" is enigmatic to me....like a critical Christian or Muslim. By 'adopting' a set of standards which are by design NOT based in deducing critical-assessment of reality you are not eligible for the title critical. A critical chiropractor is NOT a Chiropractor, why (except your financial stability) do you persist in trying to have scientific standards envelope 'Chiropractic' and still maintain the name?? IF Chiropractic adopts comprehensively-critical standards it would become NOT-Chiropractic....not "science-based Chiropractic". I've been to 12 DCs and excepting they were adept showman and salesmen (and had excellent personalities to hook patients) they ALL were nuts. If I could have infiltrated their brains I know they were simply trying to bullshit me with nonsense....at root they had no more idea than I did as to what was wrong, and what to do. Some were "specific", some not, some used adjuncts some not....all had posters about the "root of my problem": some form of subluxation. They all shared a basic paradigm: perpetuating a parsimonious solution to a chimerical problem, i.e. a religious core disguised as science. I ceased going and my pain(s) always go away anyway....just like they did with the 'treatments'.
by Alan Henness - Monday 21 August 2017 15:53
If only chiropractic was a medical profession...
by Bilal - Monday 21 August 2017 14:04
First of all Thank you for your input. Sure. In any profession there are abusers. Chiropractors for endless follow-up, MDs involved in the Opioid epidemic in the US which is probably was worst than endless adjustments..... and the list goes on... All i'm saying and maybe this is wishful thinking that all medical professions needs to work together with patient as the end game...
by Richard Rawlins - Monday 21 August 2017 10:48
When you finish reforming you will be a doctor, physiotherapist, nurse, biomedical scientist - depending on your inclination and ability and effort you put in to your studies. Good luck. Welcome to the 21st century.
by Critical_Chiro - Monday 21 August 2017 04:45
How many times have I said over the years that criticism both within and without the profession is absolutely necessary for reform. But it needs to be balanced with SUPPORT FOR REFORM otherwise reform and the reformers become unacceptable collateral damage. Does this sound familiar. How many times have I said: Step 1. Point out the BS and criticize it. Step 2. Support reform and the reformers. Classic example is your post on Charlotte LeBoeuf-Yde earlier in the year. I have cited her along with other key researchers many times and it has been met with silence. Then you write: "I have always thought highly of Charlotte’s work, however, her conclusion made me doubt whether my high opinion of her reasoning was justified." Really, so you think highly her work but have remained silent then take offense at one sentence she wrote so: "Charlotte Leboeuf-Yde, DC,MPH,PhD, may be a professor in Clinical Biomechanics etc., etc., however, logical and critical thinking do not seem to be her forte." Cherry pick one sentence to support your bias, discount everything else and Carpet Bomb. "I do not see them complying with all my criteria." The subluxationists, yes I agree. The reformers are compliant and actively pushing all these criteria. Unfortunately you think all chiropractors are the same.
by AN Other - Sunday 20 August 2017 18:47
@ Richard What would you have done if it had got worse or if the conditon didn't improve? Also, what would you define as the condition getting worse i.e. signs and symptoms
by jm - Sunday 20 August 2017 17:44
I think you understand perfectly fine, Bjorn. You could say I'm speaking your language :). But, that's dodge #9. Shall we go for 10, or wait until next time?
by Björn Geir - Sunday 20 August 2017 10:39
@Pete Strangely, "jm" seems to read your comment as you answering my questions (See jm on Sunday 20 August 2017 at 08:56). Of course this thread is getting far to complex but the "jm" person seems increasingly incoherent. I hope it's nothing serious? Maybe we should stop playing cat with this mouse?
by Osteopathie Praxis im Klinikum Karlsruhe - Sunday 20 August 2017 14:44
There is no evidence at all for Osteopathic Manipulative Medicine for children or babies or for Cranio Sacral Therapy or for Osteopathy in the Cranial Field https://www.kinderaerzte-im-netz.de/media/53ec90b733af614b730028c3/source/20061222174343_kranisakraltherapie.pdf
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