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by Christopher McGrath - Monday 26 June 2017 01:28
Edzard, that may be the understatement of the year! Frankly, it is 'delightful' to encounter anyone capable of any critical thinking in any walk of life. And, I am not using the 'tu quoque' argument here or defending the indefensible, rather I allude the age old adage that makes reference to throwing stones in glass houses. Andrea MacGregor is to be saluted for her letter, ethics, thorough work and representations.
by Ieva Zagante - Sunday 25 June 2017 20:02
However complementing therapy my interact instead of complementing and reduce efficiency of the treatment or increase side effects/lead to new side effects. So one should rather distinguish between treatments that have significant biological effects and those that have not. Spending time outdoors is nice, as long as the body is not stressed too much - patient must be informed when treatment increases photosensitivity and similar, warned about the need to protecth himself from infections, but that's it Cannabis oil is a completely different matter. I think it oncologists should know about patient consuming unrefined hemp seed oil in significant quantities (although it is food), but that cannabis oil may be just active enough to cause side effects, thus use must be discussed with doctor.
by Alan Henness - Sunday 25 June 2017 12:01
Ron said:What more proof do you guys need ????Thus far, you have provided precisely none.
by Ron - Sunday 25 June 2017 01:33
THC and CBD did CURE our lifes ! What more proof do you guys need ???? Talking over and over about it when its so simple! Just start to grow your own medicine and FEEL what THC oil and CBD oil can do for you! From Blood in the fecies because of hemaroids till the most CANCER diseases.. START to make the difference in your life and start taking and making the oil.. Believe me we have been there .. and now we can enjoy life again as its ment to be !!
by The Vodka Diet Guru - Friday 23 June 2017 10:41
Then don't contribute to making it complicated by asking for even more nuance in language.
by Julie Tasker - Thursday 22 June 2017 17:57
Oh if only life was so simple...
by S. Cox, MD - Thursday 22 June 2017 17:46
Marianne, your description of "Complementary" therapy makes sense. However, the con artists have turned it into a dirty word by selling junk and fraud in the name of "Complementary " therapy. They do make the claims to cure,etc, that you stated should not be connected. They have bastardized "Complementary" adjuncts to legitimate therapies for profit and that is a shame.
by Barrie Lee 'Wellness' Thorpe - Thursday 22 June 2017 17:24
Julie Tasker quotes Gandhi as saying that perfect harmony is achieved when what you think, say, and do are in agreement. Well, I think altmed is nonsense. I say it's nonsense. I take the mick out of it. Result!
by jm - Sunday 25 June 2017 18:28
S. Cox Every medical and history book I've seen has warned against jumping to conclusions with limited information. There isn't enough info to tell if Grace is just "anti-vax" or full on "anti-med", as Frank concluded. And, getting medical advice from Paltrow, etc is almost as ridiculous and dangerous as getting medical advice from MDs who jump to conclusions without enough information.
by S. Cox, MD - Sunday 25 June 2017 03:44
It is incredibly frustrating and dangerous to see there are brainwashed people like Grace,jm and Tom who naively believe lies and bogus papers from unscrupulous and fake alternative so-called health care gurus and those with no real knowledge or background in science and medicine. Many of them also strongly believe with religious conviction the BS from Gwen Paltrow and the many other con artists who make up remedies for profit.(including most Alternative to real medicine quacks). They should read some legitimate medical and history books documenting infections and other diseases in the pre vaccine era and the difference after modern health care innovations were developed. History may have to repeat itself to convince the reality deniers.
by Bernard Hurley - Sunday 25 June 2017 16:25
Some people seem to have no concept of a rational argument. Some years ago I had an on-line conversation that went something like this: Him: “The measles vaccine is only 20% effective.” Me: “What makes you say that?” Him: “A nurse in the local clinic says that 80% of the patients they treat have already been vaccinated.” Me: “In the absence or other data, the most that shows is that the vaccine is not 100% effective. You cannot deduce the effectiveness of a vaccine merely from the percentage of people who fall ill that have been vaccinated. Consider the following scenarios: 1] Vaccine A is 99% effective and 100% of the population have been vaccinated. 2] Vaccine B in completely ineffective and only 1% of the population have been vaccinated. In scenario  everyone who fell ill would have previously been vaccinated but it would be incorrect to deduce that vaccine A was completely ineffective. Conversely in scenario  one would expect only 1% of those who fall ill to have previously been vaccinated but you could not deduce from that that the vaccine was 99% effective. Similarly you cannot deduce from the evidence you present that the measles vaccine is only 20% effective.” Him: “Are you calling me a liar?” Me: “No, I am merely pointing out that your conclusion does not follow from the evidence you present.” Him: “Yes it does. Everyone agrees with me. I win! You are the liar. There’s no point in arguing with a fool like you.”
by Thomas Mohr - Sunday 25 June 2017 15:54
Well, there are thousands of names. Gabrielle Day and yours for starters. You both believe that the earth is flat and a sphere. Or that two plus two equals four and five at the same time. Iqbal homeopathy and natural science do not complement each other. They are mutually exclusive.
by Iqbal Krishna - Sunday 25 June 2017 11:04
Thomas Mohr "It is akin to a PhD in Astronomy who thinks the earth is flat." Provide me one name other than your own that fits this description. We all know you are an exception. "......, therefore Ms Day is not a competent doctor." Now you cast aspersion on the allopathic education system. I am completely in agreement with you regarding the poor level of the allopathic education system that produces blinkered zombies( tunnel vision, mindless with no observations). Though I believe Björn Geir is a better representative example.
by Tuborgivejle - Sunday 25 June 2017 10:09
Dr Rawlins. Ok so you read your statement about homeopathy out. However, what should a Dr or Pharmacist then say to a patient if they disagree with your statement about homeopathy being placebo or just say that it is their choice?
by Thomas Mohr - Sunday 25 June 2017 08:54
Iqbal, you are hilarious. This is not about diplomas and memberships. This is about knowledge. You may have passed the medical exams, but by also advocating homeopathy you admit that you do not think physiology is true. Homeopathy and medicine do NOT complement each other, they exclude each other. It is akin to a PhD in Astronomy who thinks the earth is flat. Simply by this belief he has disqualified himself, therefore Ms Day is not a competent doctor.
by Björn Geir - Saturday 24 June 2017 12:22
Ooops... Sorry. I woke the grumpy homeopath-groupie. Belief in the efficacy of shaken water is terminally incompatible with clinical acuity, notwithstanding the number of letters before and after the name. A person who believes shaken water and derived products thereof can replace or reinforce medicine is not in perceptive harmony with reality. Titles and serial honorifics denoting scholarly achievements or affiliations, attached to a persons name, certainly do not guarantee that the same person should be allowed near a sick person. I know eminent professors and medical scholars who cannot safely handle a stethoscope or prescription pad. Now go back and play with your homeopathy kit Iqbal. You are out of your sandbox.
by Edzard - Saturday 24 June 2017 07:33
the FACULTY OF HOMEOPATHY like the article by Dr Day and tweeted: Faculty of Homeopath @fohhomeopathy Jun 20 More Great post from @fohhomeopathy member Dr Gabriella Day on the use of #homeopathy in general practice:
by Iqbal Krishna - Saturday 24 June 2017 01:30
Björn Geir " They have no clinical knowledge or skills but think they have." Dr Gabriella Day BSc, (Bachelor of Science) MBBS,( Bachelor of Medicine and Surgery) MRCP, (Member of Royal College of Surgeons of UK) DCH,( Diploma in child health) MRCGP,(Membership of the Royal College of General Practitioners) AND MFHom (Diploma in Homeopathy). With such little attention to details, who allowed YOU to become a doctor? I am positive, you represent most of your kind of allopaths.
by Woo Fighter - Saturday 24 June 2017 17:52
Dr. Cox, They "target" chiropractors as potential recruits for their WISE business-development and management programme, which is essentially Intro to Scientology 101. By indoctrinating the chiros, they hope to drum up more business and more money for their cult. They also go after dentists the same way. One of the most prominent scientologists in the US is a wealthy New York City dentist. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Institute_of_Scientology_Enterprises Check all the lawsuits from employees of dental clinics who are pressured and expected to join scientology.
by S. Cox, MD - Saturday 24 June 2017 06:25
WOO! When you say they target chiropractors, do you mean they attack their beliefs or endorse them? They all seem to share a common bond of quackery.
by Edzard - Friday 23 June 2017 20:18
I could not agree more
by rita - Friday 23 June 2017 17:39
Oh, happy memories of the Tottenham Court Road CoS testing centre...I don't remember there was a health element, but I do remember the test was in a folder which proclaimed its origins in Oxford...."Oxford, Mississippi" was the reply to my enquiry..... I have an idea these people were actually banned from operating in the UK at one time....mindboggling that parents would give consent for their offspring to have any contact with them at all.
by Woo Fighter - Friday 23 June 2017 13:28
Scientology has a long and very public reputation of promoting pseudoscience. They believe in "touch assists" rather than medical care to fix everything. It's their version of reiki or faith healing. At least the word is spreading about Narconon in North America as more facilities face legal battles from authorities and lawsuits from families of victims who have died. Several prominent locations have been shut down, and other municipalities have refused them permission to build in their jurisdictions. Keep in mind that scientology is also at war with psychiatry and has a front group called the CCHR (Citizens Coalition for Human Rights). The motto outside their Hollywood museum is "Psychiatry: An Industry of Death." Several scientologists have killed themselves and/or others because they eschewed the psychiatric help they so badly needed. Some well-known quack doctors like Burzynski supporter and vocal anti-vaxxer Julian Whitaker have been associated with the CCHR. And scientology also targets chiropractors through another front group called WISE that purports to help their businesses. Like Narconon, it's all an introduction to scientology intended to lure in new recruits and more money.
by ManualMedGuy - Friday 23 June 2017 13:05
I could see Edzard getting down with some Scientology, Tony Robbins, Tom Cruise chanting circles. Slight jest and sarcasm indicated here.
by Edzard - Friday 23 June 2017 10:55
“The CoS is not generally known to be an organisation that promotes healthcare programmes.” oops! even 5 years ago I was forgetful!!! I forgot a word “The CoS is not generally known to be an organisation that promotes EFFECTIVE healthcare programmes.”
by Richard Rawlins - Friday 23 June 2017 10:03
Prof, your 2012 article stated "The CoS is not generally known to be an organisation that promotes healthcare programmes." But, I suggest, that is precisely why it was founded - to promote mental health by a process of 'auditing' patients/supplicants so that they gradually become 'clear'. L. Ron Hubbard set out his proposals in 'Dianetics: A new science of the mind', in 'Astounding Science Fiction', May 1950. The title of this magazine says all you need to know - but should you wish to know more, then purchase the series of courses which will lead you to become an 'Operating Thetan' at grade VIII (as Tom Cruise is), whereupon you will learn of the Galactic Overlord who sent the Thetans from planet Xenu. Or check out Google for 'Xenu'! 'Scientology' only became a 'church' and a 'religion' to obviate paying taxes for which the organisation was being hounded by the US IRS. No deity is worshiped as far as I know. Hubbard's true motives in creating this 'new science of the mind' are obscure, but his own health may have been a considerable inducement. I was first asked to take a test to see if my health could be improved when I was approached outside the Scientology HQ in Tottenham Court Road, in 1968! 'Health' is at the heart of the beliefs and practices. It's an old gag, but I recall: "You don't have to be mad to work here, but it helps!"
by Christopher Myson - Saturday 24 June 2017 11:13
I have been thinking and maybe this is where homeopathic "recreational" drugs could be useful. Naloxone 300C wouldn't do any harm, might stop the pharmacist going bust and might even avoid the buyer buying real opiates. Or would there be a potential nocebo effect?
by Barrie Lee 'Wellness' Thorpe - Saturday 24 June 2017 10:49
I have a flighty mind! It' s chestnut bud for me! As soon as I can find the chestnut forest here on Crete! But wait!I am generally able to retain information! That's one reason I passed my exams! And I was just in conversation with a friend who used to work at the Independent when they published a story about th 'breatharian' Ellen Greve, and I'd remembered it all in detail! And advised her to check the American gentleman Wiley Brooks, who claimed to live on air and sunshine but who was spotted lwalking down the street with a chicken pie. Trouble for Wiley! But back to me. What to do with someone who is both able and yet unable to retain information? Tough job here for the chestnut!
by Edzard - Saturday 24 June 2017 07:29
the 'FACULTY OF HOMEOPATHY' just published this pathetic announcement about the journal (http://facultyofhomeopathy.org/faculty-publication-consolidates-position-leading-research-journal-homeopathy/ ): The leading journal in the field of homeopathy research has announced a significant increase in its Impact Factor (IF) for 2017. Homeopathy is published by the Faculty of Homeopathy and is the only Medline/PubMed indexed journal in this specialist branch of medicine. The new IF is 1.16, an increase of more than 50% on its previous assessment, which serves to consolidate the journal’s position as the world’s leading publication for scholarly articles on homeopathy. Clarivate Analytics released the new IF when it published its latest Journal Citation Reports for information in peer-reviewed publications. An IF is used to determine the impact a particular journal has in a given field of research by measuring how many times on average articles published in that journal have been cited by other articles, and is therefore widely used as a measure of quality. The latest IF assessment for Homeopathy covers citations during 2016 to articles published in the previous two years (2014 and 2015). Homeopathy’s editor-in-chief, Dr Peter Fisher, said: “This is an excellent result and reflects the work we have put in over the past few years to ensure that Homeopathy publishes the best of the homeopathic research from around the world.” Published quarterly, Homeopathy is an international journal that aims to improve the understanding of clinical practice of homeopathy by publishing high quality articles on clinical and basic research, clinical audit, evidence-based practice of homeopathy and reflective case reports. It regularly features research and articles from many of the foremost scientists and practitioners currently working in homeopathy.
by Blue Wode - Friday 23 June 2017 11:51
Frank Collins wrote in response to ‘the maligned Mr Newell is NOT a chiropractor’: “Nor does he have any integrity to bother his conscience. Mr Newell and I crossed swords some a short time ago. While he makes such statements about chiro, he is in the employ of chiro and is so entrenched in the nonsense, he can’t and won’t bring himself to say the obvious; chiro is a nonsense and a fraud.” @ Frank Collins FYI, Dave Newell has just been appointed to the position of Senior Research Fellow at the Department of Primary Care and Population Sciences (PCPS), Faculty of Medicine, University of Southampton. Chair of Trustees of the Chiropractic Research Council (CRC), Elisabeth Angier commented: “This exciting initiative will help to significantly develop the UK chiropractic research capacity in the medium to long term, and aims to establish a cadre of researchers with appropriate skills and experience to launch an impactful program of research relevant to the chiropractic profession over the next five years.” Some further snippets: “Dave will join a research group at UoS that has a longstanding and influential national and international reputation in primary-care research, with impressive results in the higher education Research Excellence Framework exercise, and influential collaborations with many other universities, including Oxford and Keele…Following a rigorous recruitment and interview process, conducted by the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Southampton, Dave Newell will commence as a Senior Research Fellow for 2 days a week in September 2017. He will continue in his role as Research Director at AECC, enabling unique collaborative research opportunities between the chiropractic profession and the wider healthcare research and primary care community…To fulfil one of the CRC’s goals of building long term research capacity, an association with a high quality primary care research team will provide credibility, impact and potential for future joint grant and fellowship applications. The CRC sees this initiative as beginning of a long-term research initiative that will make a significant contribution to chiropractic patient care and the development of enhanced evidence-based care in the wider context of healthcare in the UK.” Details: http://www.crc-uk.org/senior-research-fellow-appointed-leading-uk-university/ Meanwhile, 82.9% of the 1,000+ strong Alliance of UK Chiropractors believe in the bogus Vertebral Subluxation Complex: http://www.zenosblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/AUKC_Oct_Newsletter.pdf - and that's the UK chiropractors who are prepared to admit that they are mired in unscientific beliefs. @ Richard Rawlins Is it confirmed that David Newell's background is in architecture? ______________________________________________________________________ “Chiropractic is the correct term for the collection of deceptions DD Palmer invented.” Björn Geir Leifsson, MD
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